Thanks, Torsten,

Not wanting to "pollute" the OpenSCAD mailing list much further with
topics  which bother users which don't like pythr, just some minimal set of
required information.

• OpenSCAD agreed to get python language support
• So far only works when self-compiled (on MacOS), or AppImage or FlatPak
• missing resources/time for OpenSCAD to progress within "reasonable time"
• PythonSCAD is a spinoff from openscad which offers latest development
  /features + installers at the cost of test coverage. It's a superset of
  openscad and shall exist, until openscad is able to merge most of the
  useful features/functionality. just search for it on google.
• Please bear in mind that even pythonscad has issues with the MAC
  installer. so best option for mac  might actually be: compile it from source

Torsten please feel free to correct my view

Torsten, no need to greatly advertise PythonSCAD in your web page, just
minimalistic temporary information for guys which are interested to
code their models in python and not yet working as expected.)

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 10:36 AM Torsten Paul via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:

On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 03:07:28 AM EDT, Karl Exler via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:

It shows an alternate way of working, and has a lot of potential.

For at least a bit, I'd like to urge folks to just accept that there are some folks around who are interested in this way of working, and hit the delete key --- cue the old proverb about the fasces --- the delete key is always available, or one could filter out any messages which include "openscad" and "python" (there are a lot of e-mails which I delete, e.g., those regarding the BOSL library).

On 12.05.25 09:07, Karl Exler via Discuss wrote:

Much appreciated!

On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 04:04:36 AM EDT, John David via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:

I think the easiest thing to do would be to just use the instructions from: https://pythonscad.org/downloads.php

            git clone https://github.com/pythonscad/pythonscad.git
            cd pythonscad
            git submodule update --init --recursive
            sudo ./scripts/uni-get-dependencies.sh
            # make sure to get cryptopp and python dev packages installed, additionally
            mkdir build
            cd build
            cmake -DEXPERIMENTAL=1 -DENABLE_PYTHON=1 -DENABLE_LIBFIVE=1 ..
            make
            sudo make install

that should afford one PythonSCAD in addition to OpenSCAD and allow one to switch back and forth as desired.

I did add colours to:

https://github.com/WillAdams/gcodepreview/blob/main/gcpdxf.py

if there's something else you need on that, let me know and I'll look into it with you. I'm finishing up a joinery module and should be pushing up a new version presently.

William

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Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.

My concern here is of course only from the end-user pov, that in my very
limited experience OpenSCAD has always installed flawlessly by drag and
drop on the Mac and acted in a boring and predictable fashion. Python on
the other hand seems to be very much into x.y.z version numbers, pip,
conda, uv, requirements and version conflict hell; I don’t call that a good
drag and drop experience. And I really dont find that my python software
packages eg. Pytorch and minions etc work exactly the same from version to
version. I would hate to see a novel render from an old file.

On Sunday, May 11, 2025, Torsten Paul via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:

Just a note for everyone.  I was able to get this built on Linux using the
instructions from https://pythonscad.org/downloads.php but I also needed to
install libfive before it would run.  I was able to reproduce a small
example from https://imgur.com/a/gu3xmms, however, some of the polygons
in the spirograph loops were filled with green when I asked it to Render.
Note, it showed nothing during preview.  Thought folks might find this
useful.  Let me know if you need a proper bug report.

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 4:29 AM Peter Kriens via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:

@Guenther Sohler guenther.sohler@gmail.com
, I already installed libfive on the system before seeing your post on it
being a submodule.  I'll leave it for now, but might want to try removing
it and building specifically from a submodule later...

Thanks for the pointers!

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 8:53 AM John David ebo.2112@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 08:39:02 AM EDT, edmund ronald via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:

The two programming systems are quite separate/distinct and do not interact, unless one chooses to put in place a .py file to load, and invoke a command to load it in your .scad file.

I would like to note that I am somewhat curious about the possibility of Python being present in the OpenSCAD binary, and a feature being implemented using that and exposed to a .scad file --- is this something which seems potentially workable to folks? Or is it a needless complication?

William

Ahh, you were referring to the spirograph in the 2025.05.06 build

That was meant to be a special application for the 2d colored test

Please don't use self-intersecting 2D polygons for openscad/pythonscad by
default.
Clipper2 did a really good job here  not crashing and showing something
useful instead.

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 2:54 PM John David via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:

Ahh... I just anted to try something quickly ;-)  Good to know though.
I'll try a couple of other bits and see how they work.

EBo --

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 9:16 AM Guenther Sohler via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:

William:

I find the BOSL2 library to be the first place I go when I need a
complex facility that I do not care to write myself.  I am curious as to
why you dismiss it so quickly and easily.

Jon

On 5/12/2025 8:21 AM, William F. Adams via Discuss wrote:

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BTW, I was able to trivially get a BOSL2 call from python using the example
in <
https://old.reddit.com/r/OpenPythonSCAD/comments/1hc6yqw/importing_scad_libraries_into_pythonscad/>,
but I had to give the full path for the BOSL2 libraries.

Is there some setting for the default library install location (note, on my
machine it is /home/${USER}/.local/share/OpenSCAD/libraries/..."  I cannot
find anything in preferences to set/append directories.

EBo --

On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 9:42 AM John David ebo.2112@gmail.com wrote: