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Re: [OpenSCAD] Help with two problems with SCAD

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Marijan Pollak
Wed, May 10, 2017 5:40 PM

I have found out that when renaming File to an existing name,
file is replaced but date of file remain same old date.
Next of late some programs cause SCAD to turn white screen
and whatever I do it is "Not Responding" all day long.
Is it W10 or my program?
I downloaded Newest Version of OPEN SCAD, but things turned from BAD to
WORSE.
Program Attached!
Thanks in Advance, Marijan Pollak

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Marijan Pollak oberonmp@gmail.com wrote:

I have found out that when renaming File to an existing name,
file is replaced but date of file remain same old date.
Next of late some programs cause SCAD to turn white screen
and whatever I do it is "Not Responding" all day long.
Is it W10 or my program?
I downloaded Newest Version of OPEN SCAD, but things turned from BAD to
WORSE.
Program Attached!
Thanks in Advance, Marijan Pollak

Regards from Croatia, the Homeland of one of greatest inventors from 19th
and 20th Centuries, Engineer Nikola Tesla!

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and 20th Centuries, Engineer Nikola Tesla!

TangTurbineRoundBottomShortNewJetZI.scad (10K) http://forum.openscad.org/attachment/21425/0/TangTurbineRoundBottomShortNewJetZI.scad

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I have found out that when renaming File to an existing name, file is replaced but date of file remain same old date. Next of late some programs cause SCAD to turn white screen and whatever I do it is "Not Responding" all day long. Is it W10 or my program? I downloaded Newest Version of OPEN SCAD, but things turned from BAD to WORSE. Program Attached! Thanks in Advance, Marijan Pollak On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Marijan Pollak <oberonmp@gmail.com> wrote: > I have found out that when renaming File to an existing name, > file is replaced but date of file remain same old date. > Next of late some programs cause SCAD to turn white screen > and whatever I do it is "Not Responding" all day long. > Is it W10 or my program? > I downloaded Newest Version of OPEN SCAD, but things turned from BAD to > WORSE. > Program Attached! > Thanks in Advance, Marijan Pollak > -- > Regards from Croatia, the Homeland of one of greatest inventors from 19th > and 20th Centuries, Engineer Nikola Tesla! > -- Regards from Croatia, the Homeland of one of greatest inventors from 19th and 20th Centuries, Engineer Nikola Tesla! TangTurbineRoundBottomShortNewJetZI.scad (10K) <http://forum.openscad.org/attachment/21425/0/TangTurbineRoundBottomShortNewJetZI.scad> -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Re-Help-with-two-problems-with-SCAD-tp21425.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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MichaelAtOz
Wed, May 10, 2017 9:20 PM

Confirmed this causes OpenSCAD to go into a CPU loop after preview results
show in console, presumable then when painting the page.


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Confirmed this causes OpenSCAD to go into a CPU loop after preview results show in console, presumable then when painting the page. ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Re-Help-with-two-problems-with-SCAD-tp21425p21426.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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MichaelAtOz
Wed, May 10, 2017 9:26 PM

I believe it's because of all the vertices lining up in the center.


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MichaelAtOz
Wed, May 10, 2017 9:34 PM

If you get rid of the difference here

// rotate([0, 270, 0]) {
difference (){
union(){
//difference()    // <---------
{
// Cutting 120 Degrees of Circle, Screw Holes  from

it solves the immediate problem.
I think this has been seen before.


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If you get rid of the difference here // rotate([0, 270, 0]) { difference (){ union(){ //difference() // <--------- { // Cutting 120 Degrees of Circle, Screw Holes from it solves the immediate problem. I think this has been seen before. ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Re-Help-with-two-problems-with-SCAD-tp21425p21428.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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MichaelAtOz
Wed, May 10, 2017 10:03 PM

While OpenSCAD should not go rouge when this happens, the problem is that all
the objects in the two unions have coincident faces at [0,0], the tangent
faces of the various circular objects (possibly elsewhere), so in preview
CSG, the difference can't tell whether particular faces should be there or
not.

F6 Render works, the results are non-manifold, which also points to other
coincident faces and possibly other issues. This is the result, those are
holes you can see inside what should be solid.
http://forum.openscad.org/file/n21429/coincident.png

This is netfabb, those yellow lines are holes, so there are problems there
too.
http://forum.openscad.org/file/n21429/coincident_holes_netfabb.png


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While OpenSCAD should not go rouge when this happens, the problem is that all the objects in the two unions have coincident faces at [0,0], the tangent faces of the various circular objects (possibly elsewhere), so in preview CSG, the difference can't tell whether particular faces should be there or not. F6 Render works, the results are non-manifold, which also points to other coincident faces and possibly other issues. This is the result, those are holes you can see inside what should be solid. <http://forum.openscad.org/file/n21429/coincident.png> This is netfabb, those yellow lines are holes, so there are problems there too. <http://forum.openscad.org/file/n21429/coincident_holes_netfabb.png> ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Re-Help-with-two-problems-with-SCAD-tp21425p21429.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Marius Kintel
Wed, May 10, 2017 11:45 PM

On May 10, 2017, at 17:20, MichaelAtOz oz.at.michael@gmail.com wrote:

Confirmed this causes OpenSCAD to go into a CPU loop after preview results
show in console, presumable then when painting the page.

I think I’m missing some info. If anyone feels like opening a github issue that would be helpful!

-Marius

> On May 10, 2017, at 17:20, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: > > Confirmed this causes OpenSCAD to go into a CPU loop after preview results > show in console, presumable then when painting the page. > I think I’m missing some info. If anyone feels like opening a github issue that would be helpful! -Marius
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MichaelAtOz
Thu, May 11, 2017 3:39 AM

Ahh, I knew I'd  seen this before
https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/1988  .


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MichaelAtOz
Thu, May 11, 2017 3:42 AM

Well, similar, but not the same...


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MichaelAtOz
Thu, May 11, 2017 3:53 AM

Marijan Pollak wrote

I have found out that when renaming File to an existing name,
file is replaced but date of file remain same old date.

Do you mean, using OpenSCAD to save a file named the same as an existing
file, ie replacing the old file by Save?

Is it W10 or my program?
I downloaded Newest Version of OPEN SCAD, but things turned from BAD to
WORSE.

What was the version originally, and which  new version?
Could you also post the Help/Library info data.


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Marijan Pollak wrote > I have found out that when renaming File to an existing name, > file is replaced but date of file remain same old date. Do you mean, using OpenSCAD to save a file named the same as an existing file, ie replacing the old file by Save? > Is it W10 or my program? > I downloaded Newest Version of OPEN SCAD, but things turned from BAD to > WORSE. What was the version originally, and which new version? Could you also post the Help/Library info data. ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Re-Help-with-two-problems-with-SCAD-tp21425p21434.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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MichaelAtOz
Thu, May 11, 2017 4:54 AM

Note that it is not hung, OpenCSG just takes a very very long time to repaint
the window.
If you hover the mouse over the View menu, when it is done, the menu (ie the
:View:) is highlighted, you can then press Alt-V, then one of the different
view, it then takes a very very long time again.


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Note that it is not hung, OpenCSG just takes a very very long time to repaint the window. If you hover the mouse over the View menu, when it is done, the menu (ie the :View:) is highlighted, you can then press Alt-V, then one of the different view, it then takes a very very long time again. ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Re-Help-with-two-problems-with-SCAD-tp21425p21435.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.