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Terry
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 11:52 AM

I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View
options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like
Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if
I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X.

Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier
file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1

I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed
documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the
distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems
strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no
longer active.

Terry

I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X. Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier file. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1 I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no longer active. Terry
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Raymond West
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 12:29 PM

The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a
separate viewing program when you hit f5/6

On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote:

I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View
options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like
Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if
I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X.

Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier
file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1

I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed
documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the
distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems
strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no
longer active.

Terry


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The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a separate viewing program when you hit f5/6 On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote: > I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View > options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like > Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if > I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X. > > Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier > file. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1 > > I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed > documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the > distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems > strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no > longer active. > > Terry > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
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MichaelAtOz
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 12:40 PM

Or in other words, tabs are text files, they are not individually tied to the display.
When you do F5 or F6 it takes the then current text file and paints it to the display.
If you change tabs/text-files, the display does not change, until you do a F5/F6.

Changing the View changes the display, ie the last time a F5/F6 populated the display, just changes
the view, without a new preview/render.

-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond West [mailto:raywest@raywest.com]
Sent: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:30
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: View menu not behaving as expected

The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a
separate viewing program when you hit f5/6

On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote:

I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View
options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like
Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if
I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X.

Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier
file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1

I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed
documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the
distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems
strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no
longer active.

Terry


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Or in other words, tabs are text files, they are not individually tied to the display. When you do F5 or F6 it takes the then current text file and paints it to the display. If you change tabs/text-files, the display does not change, until you do a F5/F6. Changing the View changes the display, ie the last time a F5/F6 populated the display, just changes the view, without a new preview/render. > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond West [mailto:raywest@raywest.com] > Sent: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:30 > To: discuss@lists.openscad.org > Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: View menu not behaving as expected > > The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a > separate viewing program when you hit f5/6 > > On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote: > > I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View > > options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like > > Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if > > I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X. > > > > Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier > > file. > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1 > > > > I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed > > documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the > > distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems > > strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no > > longer active. > > > > Terry > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenSCAD mailing list > > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com
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Terry
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 12:42 PM

Thanks Ray. So, to check I have this right: those views ONLY apply after using
F6, yes? If so, shouldn't they be inaccessible until then?

If I've correctly recalled your time zone (same as my son in Carlsbad CA?)
you're up extremely early!

Terry
Tuesday 22 February 2022, UK, 1240

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:29:38 +0000, you wrote:

The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a
separate viewing program when you hit f5/6

On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote:

I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View
options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like
Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if
I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X.

Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier
file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1

I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed
documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the
distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems
strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no
longer active.

Terry


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Thanks Ray. So, to check I have this right: those views ONLY apply after using F6, yes? If so, shouldn't they be inaccessible until then? If I've correctly recalled your time zone (same as my son in Carlsbad CA?) you're up extremely early! Terry Tuesday 22 February 2022, UK, 1240 On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:29:38 +0000, you wrote: >The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a >separate viewing program when you hit f5/6 > >On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote: >> I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View >> options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like >> Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if >> I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X. >> >> Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier >> file. >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1 >> >> I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed >> documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the >> distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems >> strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no >> longer active. >> >> Terry >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >_______________________________________________ >OpenSCAD mailing list >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
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Terry
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 12:51 PM

Thanks Michael, got it.


On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:40:50 +1100, you wrote:

Or in other words, tabs are text files, they are not individually tied to the display.
When you do F5 or F6 it takes the then current text file and paints it to the display.
If you change tabs/text-files, the display does not change, until you do a F5/F6.

Changing the View changes the display, ie the last time a F5/F6 populated the display, just changes
the view, without a new preview/render.

-----Original Message-----
From: Raymond West [mailto:raywest@raywest.com]
Sent: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:30
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: View menu not behaving as expected

The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a
separate viewing program when you hit f5/6

On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote:

I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View
options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like
Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if
I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X.

Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier
file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1

I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed
documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the
distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems
strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no
longer active.

Terry


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Thanks Michael, got it. -------------------- On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:40:50 +1100, you wrote: >Or in other words, tabs are text files, they are not individually tied to the display. >When you do F5 or F6 it takes the then current text file and paints it to the display. >If you change tabs/text-files, the display does not change, until you do a F5/F6. > >Changing the View changes the display, ie the last time a F5/F6 populated the display, just changes >the view, without a new preview/render. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Raymond West [mailto:raywest@raywest.com] >> Sent: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 23:30 >> To: discuss@lists.openscad.org >> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: View menu not behaving as expected >> >> The display shows the last rendered file - -it is like running a >> separate viewing program when you hit f5/6 >> >> On 22/02/2022 11:52, Terry wrote: >> > I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View >> > options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like >> > Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if >> > I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X. >> > >> > Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier >> > file. >> > >> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1 >> > >> > I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed >> > documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the >> > distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems >> > strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no >> > longer active. >> > >> > Terry >> > _______________________________________________ >> > OpenSCAD mailing list >> > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
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Ron Wheeler
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 1:35 PM

I think that it is showing you what you last "rendered - F6".

Try hitting F6 prior to switching views.

On 2022-02-22 06:52, Terry wrote:

I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View
options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like
Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if
I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X.

Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier
file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1

I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed
documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the
distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems
strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no
longer active.

Terry


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I think that it is showing you what you last "rendered - F6". Try hitting F6 prior to switching views. On 2022-02-22 06:52, Terry wrote: > I'm confused by some of the display results I get when trying out the View > options. When I switch from one file (X) to another (Y), the various views like > Surfaces, Wireframe etc persist in displaying X. And from that point on, even if > I switch to Z, it continues to show the views for X. > > Even after opening a new file, I still get the various views from an earlier > file. > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/2h079s2gyeh9pru/ViewMenuPuzzle.jpg?raw=1 > > I suspect I'm not using these options properly but so far haven't pinpointed > documentation to set me straight. My best guess is that I don't understand the > distinction between the two 'Preview' commands, F5 and F9? But it still seems > strange that any residue of previous work should remain when that file is no > longer active. > > Terry > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org -- Ron Wheeler Artifact Software 438-345-3369 rwheeler@artifact-software.com
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Jordan Brown
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 5:39 PM

Others have explained what's going on, but I have to agree that it feels
weird to have the view pane be showing model A while the text shows
model B.  I'd rather that when you change tabs it clears the view pane.

But then again for most purposes I prefer multiple windows, and I'm
still kind of annoyed that Ctrl+N got changed from "new window" to "new
tab".

Others have explained what's going on, but I have to agree that it feels weird to have the view pane be showing model A while the text shows model B.  I'd rather that when you change tabs it clears the view pane. But then again for most purposes I prefer multiple windows, and I'm still kind of annoyed that Ctrl+N got changed from "new window" to "new tab".
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nop head
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 5:45 PM

It would be best if it had a screen buffer for each tab, so that you can
switch between them instantly and they are always in sync. I have no idea
how hard that would be to implement or how resource hungry it would be.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 17:40, Jordan Brown openscad@jordan.maileater.net
wrote:

Others have explained what's going on, but I have to agree that it feels
weird to have the view pane be showing model A while the text shows model
B.  I'd rather that when you change tabs it clears the view pane.

But then again for most purposes I prefer multiple windows, and I'm still
kind of annoyed that Ctrl+N got changed from "new window" to "new tab".


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It would be best if it had a screen buffer for each tab, so that you can switch between them instantly and they are always in sync. I have no idea how hard that would be to implement or how resource hungry it would be. On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 17:40, Jordan Brown <openscad@jordan.maileater.net> wrote: > Others have explained what's going on, but I have to agree that it feels > weird to have the view pane be showing model A while the text shows model > B. I'd rather that when you change tabs it clears the view pane. > > But then again for most purposes I prefer multiple windows, and I'm still > kind of annoyed that Ctrl+N got changed from "new window" to "new tab". > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >
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jon
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 6:29 PM

I agree with Jordan.  Seeing the wrong graphic for the visible text is
just ... wrong

I also agree with nop head.

Tabs are not my favorite feature

On 2/22/2022 12:45 PM, nop head wrote:

It would be best if it had a screen buffer for each tab, so that you
can switch between them instantly and they are always in sync. I have
no idea how hard that would be to implement or how resource hungry it
would be.

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 17:40, Jordan Brown
openscad@jordan.maileater.net wrote:

 Others have explained what's going on, but I have to agree that it
 feels weird to have the view pane be showing model A while the
 text shows model B.  I'd rather that when you change tabs it
 clears the view pane.

 But then again for most purposes I prefer multiple windows, and
 I'm still kind of annoyed that Ctrl+N got changed from "new
 window" to "new tab".

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I agree with Jordan.  Seeing the wrong graphic for the visible text is just ... wrong I also agree with nop head. Tabs are not my favorite feature On 2/22/2022 12:45 PM, nop head wrote: > It would be best if it had a screen buffer for each tab, so that you > can switch between them instantly and they are always in sync. I have > no idea how hard that would be to implement or how resource hungry it > would be. > > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 17:40, Jordan Brown > <openscad@jordan.maileater.net> wrote: > > Others have explained what's going on, but I have to agree that it > feels weird to have the view pane be showing model A while the > text shows model B.  I'd rather that when you change tabs it > clears the view pane. > > But then again for most purposes I prefer multiple windows, and > I'm still kind of annoyed that Ctrl+N got changed from "new > window" to "new tab". > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
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Jordan Brown
Tue, Feb 22, 2022 6:51 PM

On 2/22/2022 9:45 AM, nop head wrote:

It would be best if it had a screen buffer for each tab, so that you
can switch between them instantly and they are always in sync. I have
no idea how hard that would be to implement or how resource hungry it
would be.

Yes, that would be better still.

On 2/22/2022 9:45 AM, nop head wrote: > It would be best if it had a screen buffer for each tab, so that you > can switch between them instantly and they are always in sync. I have > no idea how hard that would be to implement or how resource hungry it > would be. Yes, that would be better still.