GM
Gábor Magyar
Tue, Sep 17, 2024 11:01 AM
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
RT
Richard Thomas
Tue, Sep 17, 2024 11:27 AM
I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
joining method.
Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
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I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
joining method.
Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
> Hello!
> A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
> Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
>
> The object, 410x10x530mm.
>
> Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
> What other solutions are possible?
>
> Thanks for your answer!
>
>
> --
> Üdvözlettel,
> Magyar Gábor
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RW
Raymond West
Tue, Sep 17, 2024 11:29 AM
To select a part of an object, union it with a cube. If you then,
without relocating the cube, you difference the cube, that will show
what is remaining of the object. Repeat until you have no object, just
a collection of parts. Knowing the size of object, and the size of the
cube (a bit less than the volume of your printable volume, I guess) this
repetitive could be be automated. If you made the cube with dovetails in
the side, that may or may not increase the strength when you join the
printed parts with solvent.
On 17/09/2024 12:01, Gábor Magyar via Discuss wrote:
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
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To select a part of an object, union it with a cube. If you then,
without relocating the cube, you difference the cube, that will show
what is remaining of the object. Repeat until you have no object, just
a collection of parts. Knowing the size of object, and the size of the
cube (a bit less than the volume of your printable volume, I guess) this
repetitive could be be automated. If you made the cube with dovetails in
the side, that may or may not increase the strength when you join the
printed parts with solvent.
On 17/09/2024 12:01, Gábor Magyar via Discuss wrote:
> Hello!
> A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
> Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
>
> The object, 410x10x530mm.
>
> Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
> What other solutions are possible?
>
> Thanks for your answer!
>
>
>
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Guenther Sohler
Tue, Sep 17, 2024 11:31 AM
I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
joining method.
Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
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Which Slicer got a Cut function?
Richard Thomas via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am Di., 17.
Sep. 2024, 13:27:
> I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
> joining method.
>
> Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
> using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
>
> On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>> A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
>> Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
>>
>> The object, 410x10x530mm.
>>
>> Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
>> What other solutions are possible?
>>
>> Thanks for your answer!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Üdvözlettel,
>> Magyar Gábor
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Adrian Mariano
Tue, Sep 17, 2024 8:30 PM
I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
joining method.
Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
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The BOSL2 library provides some partition functions that make interlocking
cuts at the partition.
https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki/partitions.scad#section-partioning-into-interlocking-pieces
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:32 AM Guenther Sohler via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
> Which Slicer got a Cut function?
>
> Richard Thomas via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am Di.,
> 17. Sep. 2024, 13:27:
>
>> I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
>> joining method.
>>
>> Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
>> using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
>>
>> On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
>> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>> A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
>>> Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
>>>
>>> The object, 410x10x530mm.
>>>
>>> Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
>>> What other solutions are possible?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your answer!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Üdvözlettel,
>>> Magyar Gábor
>>> _______________________________________________
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IHC
Tue, Sep 17, 2024 9:31 PM
Prusa slicer also has a built in cutter with various options for
interlocking parts.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 1:30 PM Adrian Mariano via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
joining method.
Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
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Prusa slicer also has a built in cutter with various options for
interlocking parts.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 1:30 PM Adrian Mariano via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
> The BOSL2 library provides some partition functions that make interlocking
> cuts at the partition.
>
>
> https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki/partitions.scad#section-partioning-into-interlocking-pieces
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:32 AM Guenther Sohler via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>
>> Which Slicer got a Cut function?
>>
>> Richard Thomas via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am Di.,
>> 17. Sep. 2024, 13:27:
>>
>>> I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the
>>> joining method.
>>>
>>> Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm
>>> using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <
>>> discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>> A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
>>>> Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
>>>>
>>>> The object, 410x10x530mm.
>>>>
>>>> Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
>>>> What other solutions are possible?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your answer!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Üdvözlettel,
>>>> Magyar Gábor
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
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Gábor Magyar
Wed, Sep 18, 2024 12:39 AM
That's great, just don't chop up the big model.
It secures the clips between the slices.
What I'm currently doing is cutting it apart with blocks and then
using another BOSL2 process to add connectors to it.
It will cost me a lot of hours, and there is a lot of room for error
due to the placement of the clips.
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!
Adrian Mariano via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org ezt írta
(időpont: 2024. szept. 17., K, 22:31):
The BOSL2 library provides some partition functions that make interlocking cuts at the partition.
https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki/partitions.scad#section-partioning-into-interlocking-pieces
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:32 AM Guenther Sohler via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
Which Slicer got a Cut function?
Richard Thomas via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org schrieb am Di., 17. Sep. 2024, 13:27:
I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the joining method.
Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
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That's great, just don't chop up the big model.
It secures the clips between the slices.
What I'm currently doing is cutting it apart with blocks and then
using another BOSL2 process to add connectors to it.
It will cost me a lot of hours, and there is a lot of room for error
due to the placement of the clips.
Ouch! Ouch! Ouch!
Adrian Mariano via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> ezt írta
(időpont: 2024. szept. 17., K, 22:31):
>
> The BOSL2 library provides some partition functions that make interlocking cuts at the partition.
>
> https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki/partitions.scad#section-partioning-into-interlocking-pieces
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:32 AM Guenther Sohler via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>
>> Which Slicer got a Cut function?
>>
>>
>> Richard Thomas via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am Di., 17. Sep. 2024, 13:27:
>>>
>>> I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the joining method.
>>>
>>> Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>> A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
>>>> Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
>>>>
>>>> The object, 410x10x530mm.
>>>>
>>>> Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
>>>> What other solutions are possible?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your answer!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Üdvözlettel,
>>>> Magyar Gábor
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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Gábor Magyar
Wed, Sep 18, 2024 12:51 AM
Where? How?
I found such a function in OrcaSlicer, but it is not a pipe dream.
You have to think about the location of the model for cutting. (If I
want to cut it in half, it only cuts on the Z axis. So, if the model
is lying down, it cuts 10mm in half by 5.)
And if the result is still big, you have to rotate it until it looks
good. Then I have to break it down into objects, make what I don't
want to break up yet(!) disappear. Then break it down into objects
again...
I would think that if a printer is defined, then a program at least
takes into account that it is completely unnecessary to cut a 4 times
bigger model one by one, but should offer to cut it to fit the printer
bed.
In theory, you could also add clips, but it requires a lot of clicking
and I saw that it doesn't happen. Ouch.
IHC via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org ezt írta (időpont: 2024.
szept. 17., K, 23:32):
Prusa slicer also has a built in cutter with various options for interlocking parts.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 1:30 PM Adrian Mariano via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
The BOSL2 library provides some partition functions that make interlocking cuts at the partition.
https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki/partitions.scad#section-partioning-into-interlocking-pieces
On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:32 AM Guenther Sohler via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
Which Slicer got a Cut function?
Richard Thomas via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org schrieb am Di., 17. Sep. 2024, 13:27:
I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the joining method.
Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
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Where? How?
I found such a function in OrcaSlicer, but it is not a pipe dream.
You have to think about the location of the model for cutting. (If I
want to cut it in half, it only cuts on the Z axis. So, if the model
is lying down, it cuts 10mm in half by 5.)
And if the result is still big, you have to rotate it until it looks
good. Then I have to break it down into objects, make what I don't
want to break up yet(!) disappear. Then break it down into objects
again...
I would think that if a printer is defined, then a program at least
takes into account that it is completely unnecessary to cut a 4 times
bigger model one by one, but should offer to cut it to fit the printer
bed.
In theory, you could also add clips, but it requires a lot of clicking
and I saw that it doesn't happen. Ouch.
IHC via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> ezt írta (időpont: 2024.
szept. 17., K, 23:32):
>
> Prusa slicer also has a built in cutter with various options for interlocking parts.
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 1:30 PM Adrian Mariano via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>
>> The BOSL2 library provides some partition functions that make interlocking cuts at the partition.
>>
>> https://github.com/BelfrySCAD/BOSL2/wiki/partitions.scad#section-partioning-into-interlocking-pieces
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 7:32 AM Guenther Sohler via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Which Slicer got a Cut function?
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Thomas via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org> schrieb am Di., 17. Sep. 2024, 13:27:
>>>>
>>>> I have used the cut function in the slicer and chosen dovetail as the joining method.
>>>>
>>>> Don't know if this kind of cutting is available in all slicers, but I'm using the Bambu slicer, which is a fork of Prusa Slicer.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 17 Sept 2024, 12:02 Gábor Magyar via Discuss, <discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>> A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
>>>>> Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
>>>>>
>>>>> The object, 410x10x530mm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
>>>>> What other solutions are possible?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your answer!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Üdvözlettel,
>>>>> Magyar Gábor
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Shaporev, Timur
Wed, Sep 18, 2024 7:43 AM
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:35834
BTW it is not that difficult manually, e.g. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4497910 😉
From: Gábor Magyar via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org
Sent: 17 September 2024 14:01:48
To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list
Cc: Gábor Magyar
Subject: [OpenSCAD] too big for printing
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:35834
BTW it is not that difficult manually, e.g. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4497910 😉
________________________________
From: Gábor Magyar via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org>
Sent: 17 September 2024 14:01:48
To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list
Cc: Gábor Magyar
Subject: [OpenSCAD] too big for printing
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
MM
Michael Marx (spintel)
Thu, Sep 19, 2024 4:55 AM
Also remember a2 + b2 = c2 using the diagonal of the build plate. Depending on thickness you can get to ~280mm
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Cc: Gábor Magyar; Shaporev, Timur
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: too big for printing
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:35834
BTW it is not that difficult manually, e.g. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4497910 😉
From: Gábor Magyar via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org
Sent: 17 September 2024 14:01:48
To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list
Cc: Gábor Magyar
Subject: [OpenSCAD] too big for printing
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor
Also remember a2 + b2 = c2 using the diagonal of the build plate. Depending on thickness you can get to ~280mm
_____
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Sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:43
To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list
Cc: Gábor Magyar; Shaporev, Timur
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: too big for printing
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:35834
BTW it is not that difficult manually, e.g. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4497910 😉
_____
From: Gábor Magyar via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org>
Sent: 17 September 2024 14:01:48
To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list
Cc: Gábor Magyar
Subject: [OpenSCAD] too big for printing
Hello!
A large shape should be produced with a 3D printer.
Printing options: 200x200x300mm.
The object, 410x10x530mm.
Which library has the knowledge to cut the design to a printable size?
What other solutions are possible?
Thanks for your answer!
--
Üdvözlettel,
Magyar Gábor