VIRTUAL   REGION 

Yesterday I saw 5 crashes trying to load a new browser (EPIC) and OpenScad crashed for the first time whilst rendering a model that it had successfully rendered half a dozen times earlier in the day and went on to successfully render on reloading. I am now left wondering if it is my particular machine that needs returning or just Rosetta needing more debug. Has anyone else experienced any M1 crashes ? Process: OpenSCAD [10652] Path: /Applications/OpenSCAD.app/Contents/MacOS/OpenSCAD Identifier: org.openscad.OpenSCAD Version: 2019.05 (2019.05.10) Code Type: X86-64 (Translated) Parent Process: ??? [1] Responsible: OpenSCAD [10652] User ID: 501 Date/Time: 2021-01-12 21:21:11.612 +0000 OS Version: macOS 11.1 (20C69) Report Version: 12 Anonymous UUID: 9855E757-6A6A-7085-431A-AFA43E38A0EB Sleep/Wake UUID: 4D572E90-0BA3-46CA-A081-6E1F5B056574 Time Awake Since Boot: 200000 seconds Time Since Wake: 3700 seconds System Integrity Protection: enabled Crashed Thread: 5 QThread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS) Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x00006000fa0b7210 Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Signal: Bus error: 10 Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xa Terminating Process: exc handler [10652] VM Regions Near 0x6000fa0b7210: MALLOC_NANO 6000f0000000-6000f8000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=PRV --> MALLOC_NANO 6000f8000000-600100000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=PRV MALLOC_NANO 600100000000-600108000000 [128.0M] rw-/rwx SM=PRV Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread 0 ??? 0x00007ffe9640aa30 ??? 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff20400e7e mach_msg_trap + 10 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2052d50d __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 316 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2052bbf6 __CFRunLoopRun + 1319 4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2052afe2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 567 5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff289f66d0 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 292 6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff289f64cc ReceiveNextEventCommon + 709 7 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x00007fff289f61ef _BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter + 64 8 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c7dde9 _DPSNextEvent + 883 9 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c7c5af -[NSApplication(NSEvent) _nextEventMatchingEventMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 1366 10 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22c6eb0a -[NSApplication run] + 586 11 libqcocoa.dylib 0x0000000113fdfc77 0x113fb8000 + 162935 12 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x000000011117ac0f QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 431 13 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x000000011117fae1 QCoreApplication::exec() + 369 14 0x0000000104317a49 gui(std::__1::vector<std::__1::basic_string&lt;char, std::__1::char_traits&lt;char>, std::__1::allocator<char> >, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string&lt;char, std::__1::char_traits&lt;char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > > >&, boost::filesystem::path const&, int, char**) + 2297 15 0x000000010431c59b main + 15979 16 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff20450621 start + 1 Thread 1:: com.apple.rosetta.exceptionserver 0 runtime 0x00007ffdffc5ca98 0x7ffdffc5a000 + 10904 1 runtime 0x00007ffdffc662b8 0x7ffdffc5a000 + 49848 2 runtime 0x00007ffdffc678e8 0x7ffdffc5a000 + 55528 Thread 2:: com.apple.NSEventThread 0 ??? 0x00007ffe9640aa30 ??? 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff20400e7e mach_msg_trap + 10 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2052d50d __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 316 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2052bbf6 __CFRunLoopRun + 1319 4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2052afe2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 567 5 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff22e03c16 _NSEventThread + 124 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20435950 _pthread_start + 224 7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2043147b thread_start + 15 Thread 3:: Qt bearer thread 0 ??? 0x00007ffe9640aa30 ??? 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff204074fe poll + 10 2 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x00000001111d2337 QEventDispatcherUNIX::processEvents(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 903 3 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x000000011117ac0f QEventLoop::exec(QFlags<QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag>) + 431 4 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x0000000110fba17c QThread::exec() + 140 5 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x0000000110fbdf60 0x110f92000 + 180064 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20435950 _pthread_start + 224 7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2043147b thread_start + 15 Thread 4:: AMCP Logging Spool 0 ??? 0x00007ffe9640aa30 ??? 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff20400eba semaphore_wait_trap + 10 2 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff287636e6 caulk::semaphore::timed_wait(double) + 110 3 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff28763634 caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::run() + 30 4 com.apple.audio.caulk 0x00007fff287633c0 void* caulk::thread_proxy<std::__1::tuple&lt;caulk::thread::attributes, void (caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread::*)(), std::__1::tuple&lt;caulk::concurrent::details::worker_thread*> > >(void*) + 45 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20435950 _pthread_start + 224 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2043147b thread_start + 15 Thread 5 Crashed:: QThread 0 ??? 0x00006000fa0b7210 ??? 1 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x00000001111886ec QMetaObject::invokeMethod(QObject*, char const*, Qt::ConnectionType, QGenericReturnArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument, QGenericArgument) + 1564 2 0x000000010434ef8e MainWindow::consoleOutput(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits&lt;char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > const&, void*) + 382 3 0x0000000104214ba1 PRINT_NOCACHE(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits&lt;char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > const&) + 1185 4 0x00000001043d1bb1 createNefPolyhedronFromPolySet(PolySet const&) + 6049 5 0x000000010443bbdd CGALUtils::applyOperator(std::__1::list<std::__1::pair&lt;AbstractNode const*, std::__1::shared_ptr&lt;Geometry const> >, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::pair&lt;AbstractNode const*, std::__1::shared_ptr&lt;Geometry const> > > > const&, OpenSCADOperator) + 365 6 0x0000000104224b00 GeometryEvaluator::applyToChildren3D(AbstractNode const&, OpenSCADOperator) + 512 7 0x00000001042241ab GeometryEvaluator::applyToChildren(AbstractNode const&, OpenSCADOperator) + 1243 8 0x00000001042268ca GeometryEvaluator::visit(State&, AbstractNode const&) + 154 9 0x0000000104222e20 NodeVisitor::traverse(AbstractNode const&, State const&) + 336 10 0x0000000104222de2 NodeVisitor::traverse(AbstractNode const&, State const&) + 274 11 0x0000000104222de2 NodeVisitor::traverse(AbstractNode const&, State const&) + 274 12 0x0000000104222de2 NodeVisitor::traverse(AbstractNode const&, State const&) + 274 13 0x0000000104222de2 NodeVisitor::traverse(AbstractNode const&, State const&) + 274 14 0x000000010422346c GeometryEvaluator::evaluateGeometry(AbstractNode const&, bool) + 572 15 0x0000000104550494 CGALWorker::work() + 68 16 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x00000001111af140 QMetaObject::activate(QObject*, int, int, void**) + 2320 17 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x0000000110fba868 QThread::started(QThread::QPrivateSignal) + 56 18 org.qt-project.QtCore 0x0000000110fbdf46 0x110f92000 + 180038 19 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff20435950 _pthread_start + 224 20 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff2043147b thread_start + 15 Thread 6: 0 runtime 0x00007ffdffcb4914 0x7ffdffc5a000 + 370964 Thread 7: 0 runtime 0x00007ffdffcb4914 0x7ffdffc5a000 + 370964 Thread 8: 0 runtime 0x00007ffdffcb4914 0x7ffdffc5a000 + 370964 Thread 5 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit): rax: 0x00006000fa0b6d30 rbx: 0x0000000000000017 rcx: 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Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got memory hungry. I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if it happens along with other crashes. I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? ----- OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me. Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner gussets and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported. Parts are imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which is my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this to 18 to reduce the draft rendering time. I have a todo to try out $fa instead > On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got > memory hungry. > > I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if it > happens along with other crashes. > > I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. > OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. > Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? > > > > ----- > OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... > > * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me. > > Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

Extrusions should render instantaneously, regardless of the $fn setting as they are just linear_extrudes of 2D profiles. See https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions. That test takes 0:00:00.143 to preview on my laptop and draws at a very high framerate. On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:50, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: > Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner gussets > and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported. Parts are > imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. > > I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which is > my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this to > 18 to reduce the draft rendering time. I have a todo to try out $fa > instead > > > > > On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got > memory hungry. > > I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if it > happens along with other crashes. > > I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. > OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. > Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? > > > > ----- > OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done > something stupid... > > * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me. > > Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the > Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all > copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously > inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >

But if they are touching other things, you have to do a boolean operation on the extrusion, which can be slow. This is a great application for the background modifier. If you put each extrusion (individually) behind a % sign, no boolean operations will be performed on them. By default, it also makes them transparent, but you can use color() to override that part of the behavior. Since you presumably don't intend to ever export an STL that includes the extrusions, there's no reason not to do this. On Jan 14, 2021, 02:14 -0800, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com>, wrote: > Extrusions should render instantaneously, regardless of the $fn setting as they are just linear_extrudes of 2D profiles. See https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions. > > That test takes 0:00:00.143 to preview on my laptop and draws at a very high framerate. > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:50, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner gussets and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported.  Parts are imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. > > > > > > I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which is my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this to 18 to reduce the draft rendering time.  I have a todo to try out $fa instead > > > > > > <Screenshot 2021-01-14 at 09.18.02.png> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got > > > > memory hungry. > > > > > > > > I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if it > > > > happens along with other crashes. > > > > > > > > I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. > > > > OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. > > > > Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > > OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything,  or if I've done something stupid... > > > > > > > > * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me. > > > > > > > > Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > OpenSCAD mailing list > > > > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > > > > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > OpenSCAD mailing list > > > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > > > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

If you need to make holes, yes. If you use brackets to join them, then no. https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusion_brackets On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 10:26, Whosawhatsis <whosawhatsis@gmail.com> wrote: > But if they are touching other things, you have to do a boolean operation > on the extrusion, which can be slow. > > This is a great application for the background modifier. If you put each > extrusion (individually) behind a % sign, no boolean operations will be > performed on them. By default, it also makes them transparent, but you can > use color() to override that part of the behavior. Since you presumably > don't intend to ever export an STL that includes the extrusions, there's no > reason not to do this. > On Jan 14, 2021, 02:14 -0800, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com>, wrote: > > Extrusions should render instantaneously, regardless of the $fn setting as > they are just linear_extrudes of 2D profiles. See > https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions. > > That test takes 0:00:00.143 to preview on my laptop and draws at a very > high framerate. > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:50, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner gussets >> and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported. Parts are >> imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. >> >> I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which >> is my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this >> to 18 to reduce the draft rendering time. I have a todo to try out $fa >> instead >> >> <Screenshot 2021-01-14 at 09.18.02.png> >> >> >> >> On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got >> memory hungry. >> >> I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if it >> happens along with other crashes. >> >> I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. >> OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. >> Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? >> >> >> >> ----- >> OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done >> something stupid... >> >> * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email >> me. >> >> Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the >> Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all >> copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously >> inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >

Today I am trying out 2021.01.13 (git 0f79135ef) . Rendering the full model is fine 0.145 but the preview frame rate is down at 1/2 per second So I have just spent an hour culling the model part by part and the frame rate problem is entirely down to adding the four stock bearing holders on the Y-Rods. Delete those, leave the rods and bearings, and the frame rate is perfectly OK without any render()’s or use of %. And as I have just found there is something else odd about that stl in that it disappears in an F6 render whereas the other imports still appear. A direct render() also fails on that part. Bearing blocks for standard 8mm linear bearings (Wanhao duplicator i3). by tahustvedt Published on December 4, 2015 www.thingiverse.com/thing:1172838 <http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1172838> File Stock-bearing03.STL I will go create my own model for now Thanks for all the help ! cheers Bob > On 14 Jan 2021, at 10:48, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote: > > If you need to make holes, yes. If you use brackets to join them, then no. https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusion_brackets <https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusion_brackets> > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 10:26, Whosawhatsis <whosawhatsis@gmail.com <mailto:whosawhatsis@gmail.com>> wrote: > But if they are touching other things, you have to do a boolean operation on the extrusion, which can be slow. > > This is a great application for the background modifier. If you put each extrusion (individually) behind a % sign, no boolean operations will be performed on them. By default, it also makes them transparent, but you can use color() to override that part of the behavior. Since you presumably don't intend to ever export an STL that includes the extrusions, there's no reason not to do this. > On Jan 14, 2021, 02:14 -0800, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com <mailto:nop.head@gmail.com>>, wrote: >> Extrusions should render instantaneously, regardless of the $fn setting as they are just linear_extrudes of 2D profiles. See https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions <https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions>. >> >> That test takes 0:00:00.143 to preview on my laptop and draws at a very high framerate. >> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:50, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com <mailto:caggius@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner gussets and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported. Parts are imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. >> >> I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which is my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this to 18 to reduce the draft rendering time. I have a todo to try out $fa instead >> >> <Screenshot 2021-01-14 at 09.18.02.png> >> >> >> >>> On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com <mailto:oz.at.michael@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got >>> memory hungry. >>> >>> I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if it >>> happens along with other crashes. >>> >>> I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. >>> OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. >>> Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... >>> >>> * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me. >>> >>> Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. 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If they are standard you will probably find them in NopSCADlib. On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:02 Bob Carter, <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: > Today I am trying out 2021.01.13 (git 0f79135ef) . > Rendering the full model is fine 0.145 but the preview frame rate is down > at 1/2 per second > > So I have just spent an hour culling the model part by part and the frame > rate problem is entirely down to adding the four stock bearing holders on > the Y-Rods. Delete those, leave the rods and bearings, and the frame rate > is perfectly OK without any render()’s or use of %. > > And as I have just found there is something else odd about that stl in > that it disappears in an F6 render whereas the other imports still appear. > A direct render() also fails on that part. > > Bearing blocks for standard 8mm linear bearings (Wanhao duplicator i3). by > tahustvedt > Published on December 4, 2015 > www.thingiverse.com/thing:1172838 > File Stock-bearing03.STL > > I will go create my own model for now > Thanks for all the help ! > > cheers > Bob > > > On 14 Jan 2021, at 10:48, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote: > > If you need to make holes, yes. If you use brackets to join them, then no. > https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusion_brackets > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 10:26, Whosawhatsis <whosawhatsis@gmail.com> wrote: > >> But if they are touching other things, you have to do a boolean operation >> on the extrusion, which can be slow. >> >> This is a great application for the background modifier. If you put each >> extrusion (individually) behind a % sign, no boolean operations will be >> performed on them. By default, it also makes them transparent, but you can >> use color() to override that part of the behavior. Since you presumably >> don't intend to ever export an STL that includes the extrusions, there's no >> reason not to do this. >> On Jan 14, 2021, 02:14 -0800, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com>, wrote: >> >> Extrusions should render instantaneously, regardless of the $fn setting >> as they are just linear_extrudes of 2D profiles. See >> https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions. >> >> That test takes 0:00:00.143 to preview on my laptop and draws at a very >> high framerate. >> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:50, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner >>> gussets and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported. >>> Parts are imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. >>> >>> I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which >>> is my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this >>> to 18 to reduce the draft rendering time. I have a todo to try out $fa >>> instead >>> >>> <Screenshot 2021-01-14 at 09.18.02.png> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got >>> memory hungry. >>> >>> I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if >>> it >>> happens along with other crashes. >>> >>> I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. >>> OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. >>> Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done >>> something stupid... >>> >>> * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email >>> me. >>> >>> Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the >>> Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all >>> copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously >>> inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >

Yes they are there thanks - but installing the library has given me some headaches Putting it in the Openscad App libraries folder gave me an error. ERROR: boost::filesystem::current_path: Operation not permitted I can understand that one -some kind of permission error on the library. Sticking it in my documents/openscad/libraries gave me a warning WARNING: Can't open include file 'utils/core/core.scad’. That puzzles me as the relative pathing now works OK from within the source file folder. So rather than spend more time chasing libraries I removed it and spent 30 minutes modelling the part myself. Having done that I went back to it and stuck the library in the source file folder and that works OK, but it is not really where I want it to be. A thought - I noticed that the problem file Stock-bearing03.STL I was using has the 4 screw holes fully threaded - Might that be the cause of the slow down ? I know that using a Spring library in my models is a sure way of slowing it down. cheers Bob > On 14 Jan 2021, at 15:24, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote: > > If they are standard you will probably find them in NopSCADlib. > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:02 Bob Carter, <caggius@gmail.com <mailto:caggius@gmail.com>> wrote: > Today I am trying out 2021.01.13 (git 0f79135ef) . > Rendering the full model is fine 0.145 but the preview frame rate is down at 1/2 per second > > So I have just spent an hour culling the model part by part and the frame rate problem is entirely down to adding the four stock bearing holders on the Y-Rods. Delete those, leave the rods and bearings, and the frame rate is perfectly OK without any render()’s or use of %. > > And as I have just found there is something else odd about that stl in that it disappears in an F6 render whereas the other imports still appear. A direct render() also fails on that part. > > Bearing blocks for standard 8mm linear bearings (Wanhao duplicator i3). by tahustvedt > Published on December 4, 2015 > www.thingiverse.com/thing:1172838 <http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1172838> > File Stock-bearing03.STL > > I will go create my own model for now > Thanks for all the help ! > > cheers > Bob > > >> On 14 Jan 2021, at 10:48, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com <mailto:nop.head@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> If you need to make holes, yes. If you use brackets to join them, then no. https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusion_brackets <https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusion_brackets> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 10:26, Whosawhatsis <whosawhatsis@gmail.com <mailto:whosawhatsis@gmail.com>> wrote: >> But if they are touching other things, you have to do a boolean operation on the extrusion, which can be slow. >> >> This is a great application for the background modifier. If you put each extrusion (individually) behind a % sign, no boolean operations will be performed on them. By default, it also makes them transparent, but you can use color() to override that part of the behavior. Since you presumably don't intend to ever export an STL that includes the extrusions, there's no reason not to do this. >> On Jan 14, 2021, 02:14 -0800, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com <mailto:nop.head@gmail.com>>, wrote: >>> Extrusions should render instantaneously, regardless of the $fn setting as they are just linear_extrudes of 2D profiles. See https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions <https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions>. >>> >>> That test takes 0:00:00.143 to preview on my laptop and draws at a very high framerate. >>> >>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:50, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com <mailto:caggius@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner gussets and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported. Parts are imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. >>> >>> I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which is my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this to 18 to reduce the draft rendering time. I have a todo to try out $fa instead >>> >>> <Screenshot 2021-01-14 at 09.18.02.png> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com <mailto:oz.at.michael@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got >>>> memory hungry. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if it >>>> happens along with other crashes. >>>> >>>> I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. >>>> OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. >>>> Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... >>>> >>>> * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me. >>>> >>>> Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ <http://forum.openscad.org/> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org <http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org <http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.openscad.org> >>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org <http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.openscad.org> >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org <http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.openscad.org> >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org <http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org> > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.openscad.org> > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org <http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org> > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

I just put the library where I want and then add the folder containing it to OPENSCADPATH. So OPENSCADPATH=W:/CHRIS/Projects/RepRaptor/OpenSCADLibs In OpenSCADLibs there is NopSCADlib and I just use include <NopSCADlib/lib.scad> and everything works. If you get a boost error that is a bug in OpenSCAD or boost. I think there are issues with symbolic links under Windows but I have never used them. I still use SUBST and that always works! The way I put thread holes in library parts isn't too slow because it is just a union of a helical sweep into the hole. It would take some time to make an STL but importing an STL with a thread already in it and drawing it should not be a problem unless you start doing more CSG operations on it. However I always model things in OpenSCAD modules and use them rather than including STLs as most STLs in the world are broken, including ones made by OpenSCAD. On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 19:41, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes they are there thanks - but installing the library has given me some > headaches > > Putting it in the Openscad App libraries folder gave me an error. > ERROR: boost::filesystem::current_path: Operation not permitted > I can understand that one -some kind of permission error on the library. > > Sticking it in my documents/openscad/libraries gave me a warning > WARNING: Can't open include file 'utils/core/core.scad’. > That puzzles me as the relative pathing now works OK from within the > source file folder. > > So rather than spend more time chasing libraries I removed it and spent 30 > minutes modelling the part myself. Having done that I went back to it and > stuck the library in the source file folder and that works OK, but it is > not really where I want it to be. > > A thought - I noticed that the problem file Stock-bearing03.STL I was > using has the 4 screw holes fully threaded - Might that be the cause of the > slow down ? > > I know that using a Spring library in my models is a sure way of slowing > it down. > cheers > Bob > > > On 14 Jan 2021, at 15:24, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote: > > If they are standard you will probably find them in NopSCADlib. > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:02 Bob Carter, <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Today I am trying out 2021.01.13 (git 0f79135ef) . >> Rendering the full model is fine 0.145 but the preview frame rate is down >> at 1/2 per second >> >> So I have just spent an hour culling the model part by part and the frame >> rate problem is entirely down to adding the four stock bearing holders on >> the Y-Rods. Delete those, leave the rods and bearings, and the frame rate >> is perfectly OK without any render()’s or use of %. >> >> And as I have just found there is something else odd about that stl in >> that it disappears in an F6 render whereas the other imports still appear. >> A direct render() also fails on that part. >> >> Bearing blocks for standard 8mm linear bearings (Wanhao duplicator >> i3). by tahustvedt >> Published on December 4, 2015 >> www.thingiverse.com/thing:1172838 >> File Stock-bearing03.STL >> >> I will go create my own model for now >> Thanks for all the help ! >> >> cheers >> Bob >> >> >> On 14 Jan 2021, at 10:48, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> If you need to make holes, yes. If you use brackets to join them, then >> no. https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusion_brackets >> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 10:26, Whosawhatsis <whosawhatsis@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> But if they are touching other things, you have to do a boolean >>> operation on the extrusion, which can be slow. >>> >>> This is a great application for the background modifier. If you put each >>> extrusion (individually) behind a % sign, no boolean operations will be >>> performed on them. By default, it also makes them transparent, but you can >>> use color() to override that part of the behavior. Since you presumably >>> don't intend to ever export an STL that includes the extrusions, there's no >>> reason not to do this. >>> On Jan 14, 2021, 02:14 -0800, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com>, wrote: >>> >>> Extrusions should render instantaneously, regardless of the $fn setting >>> as they are just linear_extrudes of 2D profiles. See >>> https://github.com/nophead/NopSCADlib#Extrusions. >>> >>> That test takes 0:00:00.143 to preview on my laptop and draws at a very >>> high framerate. >>> >>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021 at 09:50, Bob Carter <caggius@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Not what I would call complex, an extruded Frame with some corner >>>> gussets and rods with an assembly of STL parts (light blue) imported. >>>> Parts are imported as I only have Thingiverse STLs and a lot of them. >>>> >>>> I do have rounded edges on the 2040 extrusions. $fn was set at 48 which >>>> is my normal draft setting for most of my models, but I have dropped this >>>> to 18 to reduce the draft rendering time. I have a todo to try out $fa >>>> instead >>>> >>>> <Screenshot 2021-01-14 at 09.18.02.png> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13 Jan 2021, at 22:49, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Not M1, not even MacOS, but I've had OpenSCAD crash when by browser got >>>> memory hungry. >>>> >>>> I wouldn't consider an OpenSCAD crash indicative of a system problem if >>>> it >>>> happens along with other crashes. >>>> >>>> I'm no Mac guru but that crash does look like it ran out of memory. >>>> OpenSCAD was at 11.0G. >>>> Was it a complex model and/or with high $fn etc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done >>>> something stupid... >>>> >>>> * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email >>>> me. >>>> >>>> Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the >>>> Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all >>>> copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously >>>> inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >>>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >>>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >>> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> Discuss@lists.openscad.org >> http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >> > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >