Templates
On 10/12/2025 4:16 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:
I have no idea about any "key". I finally found the file and edited
it. That's all I know, which is more than is documented anywhere.
When you edited a template file, you found or created something like this:
{
"key" : "translate",
"content" : "translate([^~^])"
}
That second line is the "key" being discussed.
I added a paragraph to
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_Interface#Text_editor
.
That's really not ideal, because I'd call this a secondary feature and
I'd say that at that point in the manual we should only be discussing
primary features, but it's less wrong than anything else I come up with.
Thanks.
Probably written by a programmer. A human would have called it a "name"...
:)
On 10/12/2025 7:31 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:
On 10/12/2025 4:16 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:
I have no idea about any "key". I finally found the file and edited it. That's all I know, which is more than is documented anywhere.
When you edited a template file, you found or created something like this:
{
"key" : "translate",
"content" : "translate([^~^])"
}
That second line is the "key" being discussed.
I added a paragraph to https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_Interface#Text_editorhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikibooks.org_wiki_OpenSCAD-5FUser-5FManual_The-5FOpenSCAD-5FUser-5FInterface-23Text-5Feditor&d=DwMDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=2IG1Iv812OS0ZLgbh67kii3mwztGt_xv8ErhPuXxyKYyTJfnSHh8Sy7JKpepxmte&s=ydGHIEF8ZWb6GXBhMtp9XgJ05yRy5nZcoC2Pei_A5lM&e= .
That's really not ideal, because I'd call this a secondary feature and I'd say that at that point in the manual we should only be discussing primary features, but it's less wrong than anything else I come up with.
On 13.10.25 02:26, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote:
Probably written by a programmer. A human would have called it a "name"...
Consider this first and last warning. You write something again and
you'll be blocked from everything related to OpenSCAD I have access
to.
I wrote that code long time ago, and I'm sick and tired reading those
type of comments. Now ask my motivation working on bugs or feature
requests reported.
The user access via separate folder was added for power users as it's
trivial to add so some people can make use of it. That it's not the
most user friendly way for everyone is obvious. If anyone wants to add
a user friendly GUI, go ahead.
Don't bother answering, I'll stay away for a bit doing things I like.
ciao,
Torsten.
Torsten:
I owe you an apology. I could have expressed my thoughts professionally
("I was confused about the term 'key' because I think of it as the
'name' of the Template") but I chose to be playful and flippant (as
indicated by my smiley face). I did not intend to offend anyone, but I
guess I did.
While you may view Templates as a feature reserved for power users, I
see it as an essential part of how I use OpenSCAD. Every time I create
a new project, I use my Template to ensure that I start off with the
familiar values.
Thank you for the effort you have put in over the years. I am certain
that it is appreciated by everyone who uses OpenSCAD, but in particular
I appreciate it. And I appreciated it before I made my careless remark.
Jon
On 10/12/2025 8:43 PM, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
On 13.10.25 02:26, jon
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__jonbondy.com&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=hhtw5FzF-8Xan0G1VGzXVkYVGwt8Svo3phqyvWto0fQRzGYVEcavTrBLB0cLnhBQ&s=ULLmYowMzOKhoPBNoGvCPk_0mJVXalKCzAPdwAE_ACg&e=
via Discuss wrote:
Probably written by a programmer. A human would have called it a
"name"...
Consider this first and last warning. You write something again and
you'll be blocked from everything related to OpenSCAD I have access
to.
I wrote that code long time ago, and I'm sick and tired reading those
type of comments. Now ask my motivation working on bugs or feature
requests reported.
The user access via separate folder was added for power users as it's
trivial to add so some people can make use of it. That it's not the
most user friendly way for everyone is obvious. If anyone wants to add
a user friendly GUI, go ahead.
Don't bother answering, I'll stay away for a bit doing things I like.
ciao,
Torsten.
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Instead of using a template I use a Perl (could also be a python) script
to generate a skeleton programm including all required modules/functions
and included files I think off the moment I'm starting to develop.
For instance I'm going to designa house, I need the following
components: print_wall, print_door, print_window, print_roof, chimnee,
bricks, and so on.
I generate the skeleton file from the (linux) command line with:
scadcreate house print_wall print_door print_window print_roof chimnee
bricks
All modules starting with "print_" are going to deliver a printable
part, the other modules not.
All familiar values are set.
All (user) libraries are included
and so on.
I think every one has his own preferred way of working.
Ciao
Jon Bondy via Discuss schreef op 2025-10-13 10:40:
Torsten:
I owe you an apology. I could have expressed my thoughts
professionally ("I was confused about the term 'key' because I think of
it as the 'name' of the Template") but I chose to be playful and
flippant (as indicated by my smiley face). I did not intend to offend
anyone, but I guess I did.
While you may view Templates as a feature reserved for power users, I
see it as an essential part of how I use OpenSCAD. Every time I create
a new project, I use my Template to ensure that I start off with the
familiar values.
Thank you for the effort you have put in over the years. I am certain
that it is appreciated by everyone who uses OpenSCAD, but in particular
I appreciate it. And I appreciated it before I made my careless
remark.
Jon
On 10/12/2025 8:43 PM, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote: On 13.10.25
02:26, jon
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__jonbondy.com&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=hhtw5FzF-8Xan0G1VGzXVkYVGwt8Svo3phqyvWto0fQRzGYVEcavTrBLB0cLnhBQ&s=ULLmYowMzOKhoPBNoGvCPk_0mJVXalKCzAPdwAE_ACg&e=
via Discuss wrote: Probably written by a programmer. A human would
have called it a "name"...
Consider this first and last warning. You write something again and
you'll be blocked from everything related to OpenSCAD I have access
to.
I wrote that code long time ago, and I'm sick and tired reading those
type of comments. Now ask my motivation working on bugs or feature
requests reported.
The user access via separate folder was added for power users as it's
trivial to add so some people can make use of it. That it's not the
most user friendly way for everyone is obvious. If anyone wants to add
a user friendly GUI, go ahead.
Don't bother answering, I'll stay away for a bit doing things I like.
ciao,
Torsten.
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Matthieu:
What you wrote makes sense.
Ironically, I wrote a program to stuff the clipboard with boilerplate text back in 2008, and never thought to use it with OpenSCAD until this moment.
Jon
On 10/13/2025 5:35 AM, Matthieu Hendriks wrote:
Instead of using a template I use a Perl (could also be a python) script to generate a skeleton programm including all required modules/functions and included files I think off the moment I'm starting to develop.
For instance I'm going to designa house, I need the following components: print_wall, print_door, print_window, print_roof, chimnee, bricks, and so on.
I generate the skeleton file from the (linux) command line with:
scadcreate house print_wall print_door print_window print_roof chimnee bricks
All modules starting with "print_" are going to deliver a printable part, the other modules not.
All familiar values are set.
All (user) libraries are included
and so on.
I think every one has his own preferred way of working.
Ciao
Jon Bondy via Discuss schreef op 2025-10-13 10:40:
Torsten:
I owe you an apology. I could have expressed my thoughts professionally ("I was confused about the term 'key' because I think of it as the 'name' of the Template") but I chose to be playful and flippant (as indicated by my smiley face). I did not intend to offend anyone, but I guess I did.
While you may view Templates as a feature reserved for power users, I see it as an essential part of how I use OpenSCAD. Every time I create a new project, I use my Template to ensure that I start off with the familiar values.
Thank you for the effort you have put in over the years. I am certain that it is appreciated by everyone who uses OpenSCAD, but in particular I appreciate it. And I appreciated it before I made my careless remark.
Jon
On 10/12/2025 8:43 PM, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
On 13.10.25 02:26, jon https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__jonbondy.com&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=hhtw5FzF-8Xan0G1VGzXVkYVGwt8Svo3phqyvWto0fQRzGYVEcavTrBLB0cLnhBQ&s=ULLmYowMzOKhoPBNoGvCPk_0mJVXalKCzAPdwAE_ACg&e= via Discuss wrote:
Probably written by a programmer. A human would have called it a "name"...
Consider this first and last warning. You write something again and
you'll be blocked from everything related to OpenSCAD I have access
to.
I wrote that code long time ago, and I'm sick and tired reading those
type of comments. Now ask my motivation working on bugs or feature
requests reported.
The user access via separate folder was added for power users as it's
trivial to add so some people can make use of it. That it's not the
most user friendly way for everyone is obvious. If anyone wants to add
a user friendly GUI, go ahead.
Don't bother answering, I'll stay away for a bit doing things I like.
ciao,
Torsten.
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