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Why is the 2015.03 kept as the "official" release?

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Alex Gibson
Sat, Dec 14, 2019 6:22 PM

I would love to see a current stable release!  I’m often introducing new people to OpenSCAD, and design customisable machines which I share with others – so I sadly do not use the nightly snapshots and am stuck on 2015.03 for sure compatibility…

I’ve seen a lot here about peoples’ ideas and contrasting opinions for what ‘OpenSCAD 2.0’ should be, but I’d be delighted just to try a V1.9!  Or 2020.02 or so

Is it worth nominating a ‘release candidate’ and making a public beta test of this?  This way people like me could at least kick the tyres and road test it, to borrow the car analogy – especially if any know bugs, and any new features, are highlighted.  We could give end user feedback.

I would love to understand what the main obstacles are to making a release?  I don’t know whether it would help but ‘bounties’ could be offered for fixing individual bugs.

Of course this is all dependent on the goodwill of the developers, meanwhile I am grateful for the 2015.03 that has served me well!

Cheers,

Alex Gibson

admg consulting

edumaker limited

·        Project management

·        Operations & Process improvement

·        3D Printing

From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.openscad.org] On Behalf Of Clint Goss
Sent: 21 August 2018 08:04
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: Re: [OpenSCAD] Why is the 2015.03 kept as the "official" release?

I will put in a vote, a nudge, a sentiment on behalf of the (probably) large number of users who, like myself, make heavy use of OpenSCAD but are not in the developer community. We download it, thank our stars that it exists, scratch our head a bit about the 2015.03 stamp, and put it to use.

Somewhere down the road, after lots of code (11,000 lines, in my case) and results (the open-source www.BreathFlute.com, in my case), we begin to wonder what we might be missing. Are there useful features out there? Are there lurking bugs that have been fixed? Is there a reasonably accessible list of these items since 2015.03??

Yes, I do realize how daunting an official release can be, especially if it has not been done in 3+ years.

However, I'm guessing that the developers may not always be aware of the value of OpenSCAD to a wide and largely un-heard user community out there ...

-- Clint Goss, Ph.D.

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On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:44 AM, nop head nop.head@gmail.com wrote:

Ideally yes, but when the last release was three years ago and everybody is using snapshots it seems we are waiting for this release to be perfect when it is already substantially better than the last one.

On 21 August 2018 at 07:38, Troberg troberg.anders@gmail.com wrote:

nophead wrote

I would wager the latest snapshot has more features and less bugs that the
last release, so why not make it a release?

Well, just like when working with a car, you need to make sure you have all
the parts in and all the nuts and bolts tightened before you let it out on
the road.

Same thing here, a lot of work being done, and it must be verified that
everything is in place and works together as intended.

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I would love to see a current stable release! I’m often introducing new people to OpenSCAD, and design customisable machines which I share with others – so I sadly do not use the nightly snapshots and am stuck on 2015.03 for sure compatibility… I’ve seen a lot here about peoples’ ideas and contrasting opinions for what ‘OpenSCAD 2.0’ should be, but I’d be delighted just to try a V1.9! Or 2020.02 or so Is it worth nominating a ‘release candidate’ and making a public beta test of this? This way people like me could at least kick the tyres and road test it, to borrow the car analogy – especially if any know bugs, and any new features, are highlighted. We could give end user feedback. I would love to understand what the main obstacles are to making a release? I don’t know whether it would help but ‘bounties’ could be offered for fixing individual bugs. Of course this is all dependent on the goodwill of the developers, meanwhile I am grateful for the 2015.03 that has served me well! Cheers, Alex Gibson admg consulting edumaker limited · Project management · Operations & Process improvement · 3D Printing From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.openscad.org] On Behalf Of Clint Goss Sent: 21 August 2018 08:04 To: OpenSCAD general discussion Subject: Re: [OpenSCAD] Why is the 2015.03 kept as the "official" release? I will put in a vote, a nudge, a sentiment on behalf of the (probably) large number of users who, like myself, make heavy use of OpenSCAD but are not in the developer community. We download it, thank our stars that it exists, scratch our head a bit about the 2015.03 stamp, and put it to use. Somewhere down the road, after lots of code (11,000 lines, in my case) and results (the open-source www.BreathFlute.com, in my case), we begin to wonder what we might be missing. Are there useful features out there? Are there lurking bugs that have been fixed? Is there a reasonably accessible list of these items since 2015.03?? Yes, I do realize how daunting an official release can be, especially if it has not been done in 3+ years. However, I'm guessing that the developers may not always be aware of the *value* of OpenSCAD to a wide and largely un-heard user community out there ... -- Clint Goss, Ph.D. <http://www.goss.com/> Goss.com ... index of all our web sites On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:44 AM, nop head <nop.head@gmail.com> wrote: Ideally yes, but when the last release was three years ago and everybody is using snapshots it seems we are waiting for this release to be perfect when it is already substantially better than the last one. On 21 August 2018 at 07:38, Troberg <troberg.anders@gmail.com> wrote: nophead wrote > I would wager the latest snapshot has more features and less bugs that the > last release, so why not make it a release? Well, just like when working with a car, you need to make sure you have all the parts in and all the nuts and bolts tightened before you let it out on the road. Same thing here, a lot of work being done, and it must be verified that everything is in place and works together as intended. -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list Discuss@lists.openscad.org http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list Discuss@lists.openscad.org http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org
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adrianv
Sat, Dec 14, 2019 6:52 PM

The current stable official release is 2019.05.

alexgibson wrote

I would love to see a current stable release!  I’m often introducing new
people to OpenSCAD, and design customisable machines which I share with
others – so I sadly do not use the nightly snapshots and am stuck on
2015.03 for sure compatibility…

The current stable official release is 2019.05. alexgibson wrote > I would love to see a current stable release! I’m often introducing new > people to OpenSCAD, and design customisable machines which I share with > others – so I sadly do not use the nightly snapshots and am stuck on > 2015.03 for sure compatibility… -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/
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Alex Gibson
Sat, Dec 14, 2019 6:54 PM

Oh!

Sorry for responding without checking!  I will upgrade on my computers - I have been using the latest already for a few months without realising it was a new release!  No issues at all :)

Well done to all those who made that possible, and thanks.

Cheers,

Alex Gibson

admg consulting

edumaker limited

• Project management
• Operations & Process improvement
• 3D Printing

-----Original Message-----
From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.openscad.org] On Behalf Of adrianv
Sent: 14 December 2019 18:53
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Subject: Re: [OpenSCAD] Why is the 2015.03 kept as the "official" release?

The current stable official release is 2019.05.

alexgibson wrote

I would love to see a current stable release!  I’m often introducing new
people to OpenSCAD, and design customisable machines which I share with
others – so I sadly do not use the nightly snapshots and am stuck on
2015.03 for sure compatibility…

Oh! Sorry for responding without checking! I will upgrade on my computers - I have been using the latest already for a few months without realising it was a new release! No issues at all :) Well done to all those who made that possible, and thanks. Cheers, Alex Gibson admg consulting edumaker limited • Project management • Operations & Process improvement • 3D Printing -----Original Message----- From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces@lists.openscad.org] On Behalf Of adrianv Sent: 14 December 2019 18:53 To: discuss@lists.openscad.org Subject: Re: [OpenSCAD] Why is the 2015.03 kept as the "official" release? The current stable official release is 2019.05. alexgibson wrote > I would love to see a current stable release! I’m often introducing new > people to OpenSCAD, and design customisable machines which I share with > others – so I sadly do not use the nightly snapshots and am stuck on > 2015.03 for sure compatibility… -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list Discuss@lists.openscad.org http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org
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gasstationwithoutpumps
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 5:35 AM

Screw the experiments—just get the stuff that is already solid into a
release.

You can do a release and still have work to do and new features to add.

There should be a plan to do an annual release.

I'm running the 2019-05 snapshot, because the 2015 release was too buggy and
missing too many of the newer features.  I'd like to be able to run an
official release (early 2020?), which libraries can be built around—right
now every library seems to be associated with a different snapshot, which
makes mixing libraries even more difficult.


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Screw the experiments—just get the stuff that is already solid into a release. You can do a release and still have work to do and new features to add. There should be a plan to do an annual release. I'm running the 2019-05 snapshot, because the 2015 release was too buggy and missing too many of the newer features. I'd like to be able to run an official release (early 2020?), which libraries can be built around—right now every library seems to be associated with a different snapshot, which makes mixing libraries even more difficult. ----- gasstationwithoutpumps.wordpress.com www.thingiverse.com/gasstationwithoutpumps/things -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/
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gasstationwithoutpumps
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 5:39 AM

I've been using 2019.05 all summer, and I appreciate it being the current
stable release.

Perhaps there should be plans to do an annual release, to keep the "time to
clean up for a new release" pain to a manageable level.


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I've been using 2019.05 all summer, and I appreciate it being the current stable release. Perhaps there should be plans to do an annual release, to keep the "time to clean up for a new release" pain to a manageable level. ----- gasstationwithoutpumps.wordpress.com www.thingiverse.com/gasstationwithoutpumps/things -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/
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Max Bond
Sun, Dec 15, 2019 10:47 PM

I'd like to say that I appreciate the stability of OpenSCAD and the
conservatism of it's dev team, and that I'm constantly impressed with how
much more stable it is than other open source tools. When I first started
using open source CAD tools, I started with FreeCAD, had it crash on me
multiple times in the span of an hour, and then immediately abandoned it
for OpenSCAD.  I don't mean any disrespect to the FreeCAD team; I
understand that CAD software is very tricky to develop, and I'm sure
they're doing good work. But OpenSCAD, for all it's obscure warnings,
missing features, and challenging pure-functional paradigm, has never
crashed on me, has always provided me with solid documentation, and
generally shows signs of sturdy workmanship.

This is all to say that I am personally completely okay with waiting until
2022 for the next release.

On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:24 PM gasstationwithoutpumps <
karplus@soe.ucsc.edu> wrote:

I've been using 2019.05 all summer, and I appreciate it being the current
stable release.

Perhaps there should be plans to do an annual release, to keep the "time to
clean up for a new release" pain to a manageable level.


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I'd like to say that I appreciate the stability of OpenSCAD and the conservatism of it's dev team, and that I'm constantly impressed with how much more stable it is than other open source tools. When I first started using open source CAD tools, I started with FreeCAD, had it crash on me multiple times in the span of an hour, and then immediately abandoned it for OpenSCAD. I don't mean any disrespect to the FreeCAD team; I understand that CAD software is very tricky to develop, and I'm sure they're doing good work. But OpenSCAD, for all it's obscure warnings, missing features, and challenging pure-functional paradigm, has never crashed on me, has always provided me with solid documentation, and generally shows signs of sturdy workmanship. This is all to say that I am personally completely okay with waiting until 2022 for the next release. On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 10:24 PM gasstationwithoutpumps < karplus@soe.ucsc.edu> wrote: > I've been using 2019.05 all summer, and I appreciate it being the current > stable release. > > Perhaps there should be plans to do an annual release, to keep the "time to > clean up for a new release" pain to a manageable level. > > > > ----- > gasstationwithoutpumps.wordpress.com > www.thingiverse.com/gasstationwithoutpumps/things > -- > Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >