On 10.02.20 14:51, Doug Moen wrote:
I've tried the snap version of OpenSCAD on Ubuntu 18.04, and
for me it is unusable. Your experience may vary. I would prefer
a Flatpak image over a Snap image.
Well, there is one. As soon as I can find out how to have a
nightly build for that too, that may happen as well, but for
now it's only the release version (many thanks to the people
who did maintain and update it so far).
Not everybody with an Intel GPU experiences this problem.
Yep, no problem here with that. Running on Mesa DRI Intel(R)
UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2).
Second, the snap image is incapable of loading OpenSCAD files
that are not in my home directory. This breaks my workflow.
Welcome to the new world of containers :-). I suspect there
might be a solution at some point. We are not going to do
"classic" snap packages so we'll have to see if and how snap
develops.
That wouldn't be necessary if Snap was open source, like
Flatpak. But Snap is not open source: it is an attempt by
Ubuntu to create an Apple-like walled garden app store for
Linux.
Hmm... the store itself probably is. Snapd and the snap builder
stuff are open source (GPL3 at https://github.com/snapcore).
Flatpak is hosted on github which is not open source either.
Comparing that to Apple seems totally off as they do the double
walled garden on an island far way shooting down everyone
coming near without paying first (and some in addition just
randomly for reasons). Ubuntu is putting their throne somewhere
in the middle of an open lawn trying to convince everyone
getting the candy from them.
So the fix to all these problems is to use Flatpak instead
of Snap.
Both have their problems, but maybe Flatpak has the not so
annoying ones ;-). The recommendation is still the native
packages first. I'm not sure why it does not work on that
system, probably some small issue that's just hard to find
by poking it via email.
ciao,
Torsten.
On 10.02.20 14:51, Doug Moen wrote:
> I've tried the snap version of OpenSCAD on Ubuntu 18.04, and
> for me it is unusable. Your experience may vary. I would prefer
> a Flatpak image over a Snap image.
Well, there is one. As soon as I can find out how to have a
nightly build for that too, that may happen as well, but for
now it's only the release version (many thanks to the people
who did maintain and update it so far).
> Not everybody with an Intel GPU experiences this problem.
Yep, no problem here with that. Running on Mesa DRI Intel(R)
UHD Graphics 620 (Kabylake GT2).
> Second, the snap image is incapable of loading OpenSCAD files
> that are not in my home directory. This breaks my workflow.
Welcome to the new world of containers :-). I suspect there
might be a solution at some point. We are not going to do
"classic" snap packages so we'll have to see if and how snap
develops.
> That wouldn't be necessary if Snap was open source, like
> Flatpak. But Snap is not open source: it is an attempt by
> Ubuntu to create an Apple-like walled garden app store for
> Linux.
Hmm... the store itself probably is. Snapd and the snap builder
stuff are open source (GPL3 at https://github.com/snapcore).
Flatpak is hosted on github which is not open source either.
Comparing that to Apple seems totally off as they do the double
walled garden on an island far way shooting down everyone
coming near without paying first (and some in addition just
randomly for reasons). Ubuntu is putting their throne somewhere
in the middle of an open lawn trying to convince everyone
getting the candy from them.
> So the fix to all these problems is to use Flatpak instead
> of Snap.
Both have their problems, but maybe Flatpak has the not so
annoying ones ;-). The recommendation is still the native
packages first. I'm not sure why it does not work on that
system, probably some small issue that's just hard to find
by poking it via email.
ciao,
Torsten.
