New and a question
Then it's trig time. I will look later.
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
As the dimensions change the angles won't all be 45 degs. For example
with gripin_h changed from 28 to 18, see attached or here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmb560gz2yuo252/BenOctagonHeight18.jpg?raw=1
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But it's always symmetric along both x and y axes, right?
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 10:25 AM Father Horton fatherhorton@gmail.com
wrote:
Then it's trig time. I will look later.
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
As the dimensions change the angles won't all be 45 degs. For example
with gripin_h changed from 28 to 18, see attached or here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmb560gz2yuo252/BenOctagonHeight18.jpg?raw=1
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Yes, based on my understanding of Ben's code.
Terry
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On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 10:41:24 -0500, you wrote:
But it's always symmetric along both x and y axes, right?
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 10:25 AM Father Horton fatherhorton@gmail.com
wrote:
Then it's trig time. I will look later.
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
As the dimensions change the angles won't all be 45 degs. For example
with gripin_h changed from 28 to 18, see attached or here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmb560gz2yuo252/BenOctagonHeight18.jpg?raw=1Terry
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Hi Ben,
seems you go the long way round. First you construct the "stretched"
octagon from two cubes and hull (nice idea!) , then you turn that 3D shape
into 2D with projection and then Linear extrude it back to 3D. Lastly you
do the difference. I decided to create it in 2D, do the difference in 2D
and then use your linear_extrude. This is easier/faster (not noticeable in
this msall model) and the code is shorter and a lot less repeats.
For the octagon creation, as I now see that your "squeeze requirements" I
have just used the symmetry and "mirrored" the to corners of a quadrant
Hopefully it might inspire you to continue from her onwards!
// the two corners in a quadrant are +/- combinations of
XL = gripin_w/2 ;
XS = grip_ob/2 ;
YL = gripin_h/2 ;
YS = grip_lr/2 ;
module octagon() {
polygon([
[XL,YS], [XS,YL],
[-XS,YL], [-XL,YS],
[-XL,-YS], [-XS,-YL],
[XS,-YL], [XL,-YS],
]) ;
}
rotate([90,90,180]) translate([0,0,-1*(l_mid/2)]) rotate([180,0,0])
linear_extrude(height=l_back, scale=[r_factor,r_factor], slices=1,
twist=0) {
difference() {
octagon() ;
offset(-dikte/2) octagon() ;
}
}
M²
On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 at 18:39, Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, based on my understanding of Ben's code.
Terry
====================
On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 10:41:24 -0500, you wrote:
But it's always symmetric along both x and y axes, right?
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 10:25 AM Father Horton fatherhorton@gmail.com
wrote:
Then it's trig time. I will look later.
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
As the dimensions change the angles won't all be 45 degs. For example
with gripin_h changed from 28 to 18, see attached or here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qmb560gz2yuo252/BenOctagonHeight18.jpg?raw=1
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Nice! And trig-free!
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 2:10 PM Michael Möller private2michael@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Ben,
seems you go the long way round. First you construct the "stretched"
octagon from two cubes and hull (nice idea!) , then you turn that 3D shape
into 2D with projection and then Linear extrude it back to 3D. Lastly you
do the difference. I decided to create it in 2D, do the difference in 2D
and then use your linear_extrude. This is easier/faster (not noticeable in
this msall model) and the code is shorter and a lot less repeats.
For the octagon creation, as I now see that your "squeeze requirements" I
have just used the symmetry and "mirrored" the to corners of a quadrant
Hopefully it might inspire you to continue from her onwards!
// the two corners in a quadrant are +/- combinations of
XL = gripin_w/2 ;
XS = grip_ob/2 ;
YL = gripin_h/2 ;
YS = grip_lr/2 ;
module octagon() {
polygon([
[XL,YS], [XS,YL],
[-XS,YL], [-XL,YS],
[-XL,-YS], [-XS,-YL],
[XS,-YL], [XL,-YS],
]) ;
}
rotate([90,90,180]) translate([0,0,-1*(l_mid/2)]) rotate([180,0,0])
linear_extrude(height=l_back, scale=[r_factor,r_factor], slices=1,
twist=0) {
difference() {
octagon() ;
offset(-dikte/2) octagon() ;
}
}
M²
On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 at 18:39, Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, based on my understanding of Ben's code.
Terry
====================
On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 10:41:24 -0500, you wrote:
But it's always symmetric along both x and y axes, right?
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 10:25 AM Father Horton fatherhorton@gmail.com
wrote:
Then it's trig time. I will look later.
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
As the dimensions change the angles won't all be 45 degs. For example
with gripin_h changed from 28 to 18, see attached or here:
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Terry,
Please stop polluting every thread with email issues.
At least this tell me that my post this morning exists; I see no sign of
it in my incoming mail!
I said previously further below:
Gmail does it's own thing, it is not a plain-old-email-forwarder. Try Gmail's All-mail***.
One more time, Gmail DOES NOT SEND YOU YOUR OWN POSTS to Mailing-lists.
They will never be in your inbox.
Those 'me' are my sent emails. Or
I've just had a look at gmail settings, maybe you want:
I've not used it before, it may have other effects.
Michael
From: MichaelAtOz [mailto:oz.at.michael@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 11:17
To: 'OpenSCAD general discussion'
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: problems that folk have with emails
Ray, yeh, one off-thread comment & it spreads like weeds...
Terry,
The ONE person who developed "Empathy" (software), which is fairly new (=bugs),
and who had provided support, DIED.
Empathy has no support. It will not change anytime soon.
Don't report Empathy things, unless it is down or you can't logon.
IMAP has nothing to do with this.
gmail web client and I see my own posts inserted into the thread.
If I start a new thread it will just be in my sent folder but when there are replies it
becomes a single thread in my inbox. I don't think it comes from the mailing list.
Gmail does https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588?hl=en it's own thing, it is not a
plain-old-email-forwarder. Try Gmail's All-mail.
When they say 'to save you time and prevent clutter', they mean save them megabucks.
Some.member's replies are not to you. Your replies are not to some.member.
Everything is to/from the Mailing-list.
Replies (usually - unless someone specifically does something else) come to you from the
Mailing-list.
Because when some.member of the List received an email, some.member gets it from the List.
It is configured so the Return-To path is to the List.
So some.member's reply, is to the List not to you (notionally to everyone),
the List then sends it to everyone, including you@gmail, you get it from the List.
The List is configured, by default, with:
Receive own postings: Do you want to receive a copy of every message you post to the list? YES
so it sends your own Gmail post to you@gmail, but see above.
- Replies I see from others have subjects prefixed
The Mailing-list prepends '[OpenSCAD]'. My Email client prepends 'RE: ', yours does whatever,
the Mailing-list cleans it up,
ALL Emails, including yours, in my inbox have '[OpenSCAD] Re: ' (or no 'Re:' for a new thread)
- Why is the Author of my last reply shown in my client as
'To: OpenSCAD general discussion' ?
'Author' is not an internet mail term. When you reply, you reply to the Mailing-list.
- I can send emails to myself successfully.
Yes. One more time, Gmail DOES NOT SEND YOU YOUR OWN POSTS to Mailing-lists.
NO you cannot configure your PC Agent & IOS & Gmail to get what you want.
THE FORUM is not operational for new emails ATM.
Empathy is not a Forum, it has limitations which will not get fixed.
Life sux. Sorry.
We are looking at options, including whether Nabble changes back or other options,
but for now it is what it is. Changes will not happen quickly.
Michael
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From: Ray West [mailto:raywest@raywest.com]
Sent: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 03:24
Subject: [OpenSCAD] problems that folk have with emails
Is it not possible for folk to start a new subject for the fun that they
seem to have with email clients, instead of cluttering up other threads?
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Note that either All-mail view or Conversation view, they are still NOT from the Mailing-list, they
are your sent emails.
it does not mean your post got there. It would be rare for them not to get there.
Also as I previously mentioned, if you really want actual email from the Mailing-list, like I need
as Admin,
you subscribe another address forwarded to your usual address, then you could use email rules to
manage them,
or as I do just delete the extras.
From: MichaelAtOz [mailto:oz.at.michael@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 09:02
To: 'OpenSCAD general discussion'
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: problems that folk have with emails
Terry,
Please stop polluting every thread with email issues.
At least this tell me that my post this morning exists; I see no sign of
it in my incoming mail!
I said previously further below:
Gmail does it's own thing, it is not a plain-old-email-forwarder. Try Gmail's All-mail***.
One more time, Gmail DOES NOT SEND YOU YOUR OWN POSTS to Mailing-lists.
They will never be in your inbox.
Those 'me' are my sent emails. Or
I've just had a look at gmail settings, maybe you want:
I've not used it before, it may have other effects.
Michael
From: MichaelAtOz [mailto:oz.at.michael@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 11:17
To: 'OpenSCAD general discussion'
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: problems that folk have with emails
Ray, yeh, one off-thread comment & it spreads like weeds...
Terry,
The ONE person who developed "Empathy" (software), which is fairly new (=bugs),
and who had provided support, DIED.
Empathy has no support. It will not change anytime soon.
Don't report Empathy things, unless it is down or you can't logon.
IMAP has nothing to do with this.
gmail web client and I see my own posts inserted into the thread.
If I start a new thread it will just be in my sent folder but when there are replies it
becomes a single thread in my inbox. I don't think it comes from the mailing list.
Gmail does https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6588?hl=en it's own thing, it is not a
plain-old-email-forwarder. Try Gmail's All-mail.
When they say 'to save you time and prevent clutter', they mean save them megabucks.
Some.member's replies are not to you. Your replies are not to some.member.
Everything is to/from the Mailing-list.
Replies (usually - unless someone specifically does something else) come to you from the
Mailing-list.
Because when some.member of the List received an email, some.member gets it from the List.
It is configured so the Return-To path is to the List.
So some.member's reply, is to the List not to you (notionally to everyone),
the List then sends it to everyone, including you@gmail, you get it from the List.
The List is configured, by default, with:
Receive own postings: Do you want to receive a copy of every message you post to the list? YES
so it sends your own Gmail post to you@gmail, but see above.
- Replies I see from others have subjects prefixed
The Mailing-list prepends '[OpenSCAD]'. My Email client prepends 'RE: ', yours does whatever,
the Mailing-list cleans it up,
ALL Emails, including yours, in my inbox have '[OpenSCAD] Re: ' (or no 'Re:' for a new thread)
- Why is the Author of my last reply shown in my client as
'To: OpenSCAD general discussion' ?
'Author' is not an internet mail term. When you reply, you reply to the Mailing-list.
- I can send emails to myself successfully.
Yes. One more time, Gmail DOES NOT SEND YOU YOUR OWN POSTS to Mailing-lists.
NO you cannot configure your PC Agent & IOS & Gmail to get what you want.
THE FORUM is not operational for new emails ATM.
Empathy is not a Forum, it has limitations which will not get fixed.
Life sux. Sorry.
We are looking at options, including whether Nabble changes back or other options,
but for now it is what it is. Changes will not happen quickly.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray West [mailto:raywest@raywest.com]
Sent: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 03:24
Subject: [OpenSCAD] problems that folk have with emails
Is it not possible for folk to start a new subject for the fun that they
seem to have with email clients, instead of cluttering up other threads?
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I can see my own emails in my Gmail inbox, though not reflected to my by
the mailing list. They just show up as messages in a thread, as it would
for a normal conversation. I think Terry is using a standalone client to
read his mail, and I'm guessing it doesn't recognize his messages as part
of the same thread.
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Hi all,
I think it would be more nice to just got a link to the related
discussion.
Now my (and yours of course) are full of replies and just using space
specially when pictures are included.
So I would be more then happy with 'only' link to discussion.
Gareth Chen schreef op 2021-07-09 01:24:
I can see my own emails in my Gmail inbox, though not reflected to my
by the mailing list. They just show up as messages in a thread, as it
would for a normal conversation. I think Terry is using a standalone
client to read his mail, and I'm guessing it doesn't recognize his
messages as part of the same thread.
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I think it would be more nice to just got a link to the related
discussion. There is no option to do that for individual messages.
If you are happy with daily-ish delivery, you can get a Digest email.
Either a plain text all on one (no attachments/photos).
Or where each MIME message as an attachment (with internal attachments, images etc), but not
threaded. That doesn't solve your space problem, but is only one email to delete.
Neither has links, so you would need to go to the Empathy archive site to look.
[I didn't write it! Don't blame me.]
I'll email you examples of the two, if you want that daily-ish, let me know which.
-----Original Message-----
From: info@hjcreations.nl [mailto:info@hjcreations.nl]
Sent: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:00
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: problems that folk have with emails
Hi all,
I think it would be more nice to just got a link to the related
discussion.
Now my (and yours of course) are full of replies and just using space
specially when pictures are included.
So I would be more then happy with 'only' link to discussion.
Gareth Chen schreef op 2021-07-09 01:24:
I can see my own emails in my Gmail inbox, though not reflected to my
by the mailing list. They just show up as messages in a thread, as it
would for a normal conversation. I think Terry is using a standalone
client to read his mail, and I'm guessing it doesn't recognize his
messages as part of the same thread.
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