T
Terry
Fri, Feb 25, 2022 5:55 PM
Thanks Roger, that sounds plausible. I emailed 3DConnexion earlier today and
hope they have some insights on it.
Terry
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 15:35:20 +0100, you wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:15:51PM +0000, Terry wrote:
Michael,
Yes, I've had a '3D Connexion Space Navigator' for years. Used exclusively in
(now rare) Google Earth sessions. And first thing I did this morning was unplug
it, with high expectations. Restarted OpenScad, but disappointingly no change.
My optimism was because it definitely sounded implicated in that
obscure FreeCAD issue I discussed in both the FreeCAD forum and here
in 'Exporting CSG for work in FreeCAD', 11th February. Never did
satisfactorily resolve that. Abandoned it, for now anyway. However,
there may be fragments of 3DConnexion code that can still cause
trouble even when the Space Navigator is unplugged, what do I know?
So I'll pursue that when I get time. Meanwhile my focus is still on
OpenSCAD.
My guess is that the windows-driver was made while testing with a
certain specific application. That application had a "dead zone" for
the movement that causes zoom in openscad/freecad. Thus they tuned it
wrong and missed it during testing. And apparently the driver continues
to send these non-zero zoom-readings even without the hardware attached.
Roger.
Will shortly respond in some detail to Hans.
Terry
====================
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:21:48 +1100, you wrote:
Terry, do I recall you have a Spacemouse?
If so are you Spacemouse zooming or regular mouse scroll-wheel zooming.
Does regular mouse zooming change with the Spacemouse disconnected/connected?
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:40
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
Bingo, thanks Leonard! Never been aware of that setting. However, it does the
OPPOSITE of what it states! For me anyway.
It already was enabled (checkmarked). But with it disabled (checkmark removed)
it does what nop head and jon have been describing. I toggled it again a few
times and that remains true.
====================
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:23:31 -0600, you wrote:
Maybe I'm missing the point here, but isn't this controlled by a Preference?
Edit -> Preferences 3D view
Make sure that the "mouse centric zoom" box is checked.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
nop head, Jon,
Thanks both. I don't think I have been consistently clicking inside the
model,
so thanks for that. But even when I do so it does not stay "under the mouse
pointer". This short (24 MB) video might show you more clearly what I mean:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zmaxo2ql8w8n9/Zooming.mp4?raw=1
====================
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:44:37 -0500, you wrote:
And that allows one to effectively pan around by use of judicious zooms
and un-zooms at various points around the screen.
On 2/24/2022 9:33 AM, nop head wrote:
It has always zoomed such that what was under the mouse pointer
remains under the mouse pointer.
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Thanks Roger, that sounds plausible. I emailed 3DConnexion earlier today and
hope they have some insights on it.
Terry
===================
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 15:35:20 +0100, you wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:15:51PM +0000, Terry wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> Yes, I've had a '3D Connexion Space Navigator' for years. Used exclusively in
>> (now rare) Google Earth sessions. And first thing I did this morning was unplug
>> it, with high expectations. Restarted OpenScad, but disappointingly no change.
>
>> My optimism was because it definitely sounded implicated in that
>> obscure FreeCAD issue I discussed in both the FreeCAD forum and here
>> in 'Exporting CSG for work in FreeCAD', 11th February. Never did
>> satisfactorily resolve that. Abandoned it, for now anyway. However,
>> there may be fragments of 3DConnexion code that can still cause
>> trouble even when the Space Navigator is unplugged, what do I know?
>> So I'll pursue that when I get time. Meanwhile my focus is still on
>> OpenSCAD.
>
>My guess is that the windows-driver was made while testing with a
>certain specific application. That application had a "dead zone" for
>the movement that causes zoom in openscad/freecad. Thus they tuned it
>wrong and missed it during testing. And apparently the driver continues
>to send these non-zero zoom-readings even without the hardware attached.
>
> Roger.
>
>>
>> Will shortly respond in some detail to Hans.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> ====================
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:21:48 +1100, you wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Terry, do I recall you have a Spacemouse?
>> >If so are you Spacemouse zooming or regular mouse scroll-wheel zooming.
>> >Does regular mouse zooming change with the Spacemouse disconnected/connected?
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:40
>> >> To: OpenSCAD general discussion
>> >> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
>> >>
>> >> Bingo, thanks Leonard! Never been aware of that setting. However, it does the
>> >> OPPOSITE of what it states! For me anyway.
>> >>
>> >> It already was enabled (checkmarked). But with it disabled (checkmark removed)
>> >> it does what nop head and jon have been describing. I toggled it again a few
>> >> times and that remains true.
>> >>
>> >> ====================
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:23:31 -0600, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Maybe I'm missing the point here, but isn't this controlled by a Preference?
>> >> >
>> >> >Edit -> Preferences 3D view
>> >> >
>> >> >Make sure that the "mouse centric zoom" box is checked.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Terry <terrypingm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> nop head, Jon,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks both. I don't think I have been *consistently* clicking inside the
>> >> >> model,
>> >> >> so thanks for that. But even when I do so it does not stay "under the mouse
>> >> >> pointer". This short (24 MB) video might show you more clearly what I mean:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zmaxo2ql8w8n9/Zooming.mp4?raw=1
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ====================
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:44:37 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >And that allows one to effectively pan around by use of judicious zooms
>> >> >> >and un-zooms at various points around the screen.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On 2/24/2022 9:33 AM, nop head wrote:
>> >> >> >> It has always zoomed such that what was under the mouse pointer
>> >> >> >> remains under the mouse pointer.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >_______________________________________________
>> >> >> >OpenSCAD mailing list
>> >> >> >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> OpenSCAD mailing list
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>> >> >>
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MichaelAtOz
Fri, Feb 25, 2022 11:10 PM
Terry, have you rebooted? Sometimes things just get twisted and need a clean start.
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 04:56
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
Thanks Roger, that sounds plausible. I emailed 3DConnexion earlier today and
hope they have some insights on it.
Terry
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 15:35:20 +0100, you wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:15:51PM +0000, Terry wrote:
Michael,
Yes, I've had a '3D Connexion Space Navigator' for years. Used exclusively in
(now rare) Google Earth sessions. And first thing I did this morning was unplug
it, with high expectations. Restarted OpenScad, but disappointingly no change.
My optimism was because it definitely sounded implicated in that
obscure FreeCAD issue I discussed in both the FreeCAD forum and here
in 'Exporting CSG for work in FreeCAD', 11th February. Never did
satisfactorily resolve that. Abandoned it, for now anyway. However,
there may be fragments of 3DConnexion code that can still cause
trouble even when the Space Navigator is unplugged, what do I know?
So I'll pursue that when I get time. Meanwhile my focus is still on
OpenSCAD.
My guess is that the windows-driver was made while testing with a
certain specific application. That application had a "dead zone" for
the movement that causes zoom in openscad/freecad. Thus they tuned it
wrong and missed it during testing. And apparently the driver continues
to send these non-zero zoom-readings even without the hardware attached.
Roger.
Will shortly respond in some detail to Hans.
Terry
====================
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:21:48 +1100, you wrote:
Terry, do I recall you have a Spacemouse?
If so are you Spacemouse zooming or regular mouse scroll-wheel zooming.
Does regular mouse zooming change with the Spacemouse disconnected/connected?
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:40
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
Bingo, thanks Leonard! Never been aware of that setting. However, it does the
OPPOSITE of what it states! For me anyway.
It already was enabled (checkmarked). But with it disabled (checkmark removed)
it does what nop head and jon have been describing. I toggled it again a few
times and that remains true.
====================
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:23:31 -0600, you wrote:
Maybe I'm missing the point here, but isn't this controlled by a Preference?
Edit -> Preferences 3D view
Make sure that the "mouse centric zoom" box is checked.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
nop head, Jon,
Thanks both. I don't think I have been consistently clicking inside the
model,
so thanks for that. But even when I do so it does not stay "under the mouse
pointer". This short (24 MB) video might show you more clearly what I mean:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zmaxo2ql8w8n9/Zooming.mp4?raw=1
====================
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:44:37 -0500, you wrote:
And that allows one to effectively pan around by use of judicious zooms
and un-zooms at various points around the screen.
On 2/24/2022 9:33 AM, nop head wrote:
It has always zoomed such that what was under the mouse pointer
remains under the mouse pointer.
Terry, have you rebooted? Sometimes things just get twisted and need a clean start.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 04:56
> To: OpenSCAD general discussion
> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
>
> Thanks Roger, that sounds plausible. I emailed 3DConnexion earlier today and
> hope they have some insights on it.
> Terry
> ===================
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 15:35:20 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:15:51PM +0000, Terry wrote:
> >> Michael,
> >>
> >> Yes, I've had a '3D Connexion Space Navigator' for years. Used exclusively in
> >> (now rare) Google Earth sessions. And first thing I did this morning was unplug
> >> it, with high expectations. Restarted OpenScad, but disappointingly no change.
> >
> >> My optimism was because it definitely sounded implicated in that
> >> obscure FreeCAD issue I discussed in both the FreeCAD forum and here
> >> in 'Exporting CSG for work in FreeCAD', 11th February. Never did
> >> satisfactorily resolve that. Abandoned it, for now anyway. However,
> >> there may be fragments of 3DConnexion code that can still cause
> >> trouble even when the Space Navigator is unplugged, what do I know?
> >> So I'll pursue that when I get time. Meanwhile my focus is still on
> >> OpenSCAD.
> >
> >My guess is that the windows-driver was made while testing with a
> >certain specific application. That application had a "dead zone" for
> >the movement that causes zoom in openscad/freecad. Thus they tuned it
> >wrong and missed it during testing. And apparently the driver continues
> >to send these non-zero zoom-readings even without the hardware attached.
> >
> > Roger.
> >
> >>
> >> Will shortly respond in some detail to Hans.
> >>
> >> Terry
> >>
> >> ====================
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:21:48 +1100, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Terry, do I recall you have a Spacemouse?
> >> >If so are you Spacemouse zooming or regular mouse scroll-wheel zooming.
> >> >Does regular mouse zooming change with the Spacemouse disconnected/connected?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:40
> >> >> To: OpenSCAD general discussion
> >> >> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
> >> >>
> >> >> Bingo, thanks Leonard! Never been aware of that setting. However, it does the
> >> >> OPPOSITE of what it states! For me anyway.
> >> >>
> >> >> It already was enabled (checkmarked). But with it disabled (checkmark removed)
> >> >> it does what nop head and jon have been describing. I toggled it again a few
> >> >> times and that remains true.
> >> >>
> >> >> ====================
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:23:31 -0600, you wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Maybe I'm missing the point here, but isn't this controlled by a Preference?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Edit -> Preferences 3D view
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Make sure that the "mouse centric zoom" box is checked.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Terry <terrypingm@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> nop head, Jon,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks both. I don't think I have been *consistently* clicking inside the
> >> >> >> model,
> >> >> >> so thanks for that. But even when I do so it does not stay "under the mouse
> >> >> >> pointer". This short (24 MB) video might show you more clearly what I mean:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zmaxo2ql8w8n9/Zooming.mp4?raw=1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ====================
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:44:37 -0500, you wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >And that allows one to effectively pan around by use of judicious zooms
> >> >> >> >and un-zooms at various points around the screen.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >On 2/24/2022 9:33 AM, nop head wrote:
> >> >> >> >> It has always zoomed such that what was under the mouse pointer
> >> >> >> >> remains under the mouse pointer.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >OpenSCAD mailing list
> >> >> >> >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
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Terry
Sat, Feb 26, 2022 11:56 AM
Yep, several times, Michael.
At a practical level, it's trivial. Following Jordan's definitive rules, I now
have mouse-centric zoom disabled, so I now I get predictable zooming - as long
as I keep my mouse cursor out of the no-go zone, as you see from my later video!
But I hate unsolved puzzles ;-)
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
====================
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:10:48 +1100, you wrote:
Terry, have you rebooted? Sometimes things just get twisted and need a clean start.
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 04:56
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
Thanks Roger, that sounds plausible. I emailed 3DConnexion earlier today and
hope they have some insights on it.
Terry
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 15:35:20 +0100, you wrote:
On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:15:51PM +0000, Terry wrote:
Michael,
Yes, I've had a '3D Connexion Space Navigator' for years. Used exclusively in
(now rare) Google Earth sessions. And first thing I did this morning was unplug
it, with high expectations. Restarted OpenScad, but disappointingly no change.
My optimism was because it definitely sounded implicated in that
obscure FreeCAD issue I discussed in both the FreeCAD forum and here
in 'Exporting CSG for work in FreeCAD', 11th February. Never did
satisfactorily resolve that. Abandoned it, for now anyway. However,
there may be fragments of 3DConnexion code that can still cause
trouble even when the Space Navigator is unplugged, what do I know?
So I'll pursue that when I get time. Meanwhile my focus is still on
OpenSCAD.
My guess is that the windows-driver was made while testing with a
certain specific application. That application had a "dead zone" for
the movement that causes zoom in openscad/freecad. Thus they tuned it
wrong and missed it during testing. And apparently the driver continues
to send these non-zero zoom-readings even without the hardware attached.
Roger.
Will shortly respond in some detail to Hans.
Terry
====================
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:21:48 +1100, you wrote:
Terry, do I recall you have a Spacemouse?
If so are you Spacemouse zooming or regular mouse scroll-wheel zooming.
Does regular mouse zooming change with the Spacemouse disconnected/connected?
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:40
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
Bingo, thanks Leonard! Never been aware of that setting. However, it does the
OPPOSITE of what it states! For me anyway.
It already was enabled (checkmarked). But with it disabled (checkmark removed)
it does what nop head and jon have been describing. I toggled it again a few
times and that remains true.
====================
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:23:31 -0600, you wrote:
Maybe I'm missing the point here, but isn't this controlled by a Preference?
Edit -> Preferences 3D view
Make sure that the "mouse centric zoom" box is checked.
On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Terry terrypingm@gmail.com wrote:
nop head, Jon,
Thanks both. I don't think I have been consistently clicking inside the
model,
so thanks for that. But even when I do so it does not stay "under the mouse
pointer". This short (24 MB) video might show you more clearly what I mean:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zmaxo2ql8w8n9/Zooming.mp4?raw=1
====================
On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:44:37 -0500, you wrote:
And that allows one to effectively pan around by use of judicious zooms
and un-zooms at various points around the screen.
On 2/24/2022 9:33 AM, nop head wrote:
It has always zoomed such that what was under the mouse pointer
remains under the mouse pointer.
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Yep, several times, Michael.
At a practical level, it's trivial. Following Jordan's definitive rules, I now
have mouse-centric zoom disabled, so I now I get predictable zooming - as long
as I keep my mouse cursor out of the no-go zone, as you see from my later video!
But I hate unsolved puzzles ;-)
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
====================
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 10:10:48 +1100, you wrote:
>Terry, have you rebooted? Sometimes things just get twisted and need a clean start.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 04:56
>> To: OpenSCAD general discussion
>> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
>>
>> Thanks Roger, that sounds plausible. I emailed 3DConnexion earlier today and
>> hope they have some insights on it.
>> Terry
>> ===================
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 15:35:20 +0100, you wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 12:15:51PM +0000, Terry wrote:
>> >> Michael,
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I've had a '3D Connexion Space Navigator' for years. Used exclusively in
>> >> (now rare) Google Earth sessions. And first thing I did this morning was unplug
>> >> it, with high expectations. Restarted OpenScad, but disappointingly no change.
>> >
>> >> My optimism was because it definitely sounded implicated in that
>> >> obscure FreeCAD issue I discussed in both the FreeCAD forum and here
>> >> in 'Exporting CSG for work in FreeCAD', 11th February. Never did
>> >> satisfactorily resolve that. Abandoned it, for now anyway. However,
>> >> there may be fragments of 3DConnexion code that can still cause
>> >> trouble even when the Space Navigator is unplugged, what do I know?
>> >> So I'll pursue that when I get time. Meanwhile my focus is still on
>> >> OpenSCAD.
>> >
>> >My guess is that the windows-driver was made while testing with a
>> >certain specific application. That application had a "dead zone" for
>> >the movement that causes zoom in openscad/freecad. Thus they tuned it
>> >wrong and missed it during testing. And apparently the driver continues
>> >to send these non-zero zoom-readings even without the hardware attached.
>> >
>> > Roger.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Will shortly respond in some detail to Hans.
>> >>
>> >> Terry
>> >>
>> >> ====================
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 17:21:48 +1100, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Terry, do I recall you have a Spacemouse?
>> >> >If so are you Spacemouse zooming or regular mouse scroll-wheel zooming.
>> >> >Does regular mouse zooming change with the Spacemouse disconnected/connected?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Terry [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:40
>> >> >> To: OpenSCAD general discussion
>> >> >> Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Zooming 'centrally' without closing Editor?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bingo, thanks Leonard! Never been aware of that setting. However, it does the
>> >> >> OPPOSITE of what it states! For me anyway.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It already was enabled (checkmarked). But with it disabled (checkmark removed)
>> >> >> it does what nop head and jon have been describing. I toggled it again a few
>> >> >> times and that remains true.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ====================
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 10:23:31 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Maybe I'm missing the point here, but isn't this controlled by a Preference?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Edit -> Preferences 3D view
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Make sure that the "mouse centric zoom" box is checked.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:11 AM Terry <terrypingm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> nop head, Jon,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks both. I don't think I have been *consistently* clicking inside the
>> >> >> >> model,
>> >> >> >> so thanks for that. But even when I do so it does not stay "under the mouse
>> >> >> >> pointer". This short (24 MB) video might show you more clearly what I mean:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b1zmaxo2ql8w8n9/Zooming.mp4?raw=1
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ====================
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 09:44:37 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >And that allows one to effectively pan around by use of judicious zooms
>> >> >> >> >and un-zooms at various points around the screen.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >On 2/24/2022 9:33 AM, nop head wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> It has always zoomed such that what was under the mouse pointer
>> >> >> >> >> remains under the mouse pointer.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >OpenSCAD mailing list
>> >> >> >> >To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> OpenSCAD mailing list
>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> OpenSCAD mailing list
>> >> >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
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Hugo Jackson
Sun, Feb 27, 2022 2:48 AM
As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a preview/render is already underway.
I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m waiting.
I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files rendering at the same time.
Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
Would appreciate comments.
As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a preview/render is already underway.
I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m waiting.
I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files rendering at the same time.
Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
Would appreciate comments.
FH
Father Horton
Sun, Feb 27, 2022 3:07 AM
Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson hugo@apres.net wrote:
As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a
preview/render is already underway.
I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one
file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time
to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m
waiting.
I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult
would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you
could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for
every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one
object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some
degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files
rendering at the same time.
Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
Would appreciate comments.
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Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net> wrote:
> As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a
> preview/render is already underway.
> I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one
> file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time
> to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m
> waiting.
>
> I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult
> would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you
> could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for
> every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one
> object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some
> degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files
> rendering at the same time.
>
> Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
>
> Would appreciate comments.
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Hugo Jackson
Sun, Feb 27, 2022 3:41 AM
You can (or so I’ve heard)… but (at least on a mac) it requires you to launch the second instance from a terminal window. Of course that’s doable, but if its not difficult to implement, why not incorporate it into the distro. There’s lots of things one can “do” that are more easily convenient and handled by built-in functionality. For example, I might argue that you don’t really need the “cube” … “cylinder([size], $fn = 4) will accomplish the same thing… particularly when prefaced by a “scale” operator.
On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Father Horton fatherhorton@gmail.com wrote:
Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net mailto:hugo@apres.net> wrote:
As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a preview/render is already underway.
I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m waiting.
I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files rendering at the same time.
Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
Would appreciate comments.
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You can (or so I’ve heard)… but (at least on a mac) it requires you to launch the second instance from a terminal window. Of course that’s doable, but if its not difficult to implement, why not incorporate it into the distro. There’s lots of things one can “do” that are more easily convenient and handled by built-in functionality. For example, I might argue that you don’t really need the “cube” … “cylinder([size], $fn = 4) will accomplish the same thing… particularly when prefaced by a “scale” operator.
> On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Father Horton <fatherhorton@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net <mailto:hugo@apres.net>> wrote:
> As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a preview/render is already underway.
> I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m waiting.
>
> I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files rendering at the same time.
>
> Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
>
> Would appreciate comments.
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Father Horton
Sun, Feb 27, 2022 3:46 AM
I was wondering if you were on a Mac. Yes, Mac OS's built-in behavior makes
this harder.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 9:42 PM Hugo Jackson hugo@apres.net wrote:
You can (or so I’ve heard)… but (at least on a mac) it requires you to
launch the second instance from a terminal window. Of course that’s doable,
but if its not difficult to implement, why not incorporate it into the
distro. There’s lots of things one can “do” that are more easily convenient
and handled by built-in functionality. For example, I might argue that you
don’t really need the “cube” … “cylinder([size], $fn = 4) will accomplish
the same thing… particularly when prefaced by a “scale” operator.
On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Father Horton fatherhorton@gmail.com wrote:
Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson hugo@apres.net wrote:
As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a
preview/render is already underway.
I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one
file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time
to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m
waiting.
I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult
would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you
could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for
every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one
object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some
degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files
rendering at the same time.
Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
Would appreciate comments.
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I was wondering if you were on a Mac. Yes, Mac OS's built-in behavior makes
this harder.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 9:42 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net> wrote:
> You can (or so I’ve heard)… but (at least on a mac) it requires you to
> launch the second instance from a terminal window. Of course that’s doable,
> but if its not difficult to implement, why not incorporate it into the
> distro. There’s lots of things one can “do” that are more easily convenient
> and handled by built-in functionality. For example, I might argue that you
> don’t really need the “cube” … “cylinder([size], $fn = 4) will accomplish
> the same thing… particularly when prefaced by a “scale” operator.
>
> On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Father Horton <fatherhorton@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net> wrote:
>
>> As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a
>> preview/render is already underway.
>> I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one
>> file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time
>> to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m
>> waiting.
>>
>> I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult
>> would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you
>> could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for
>> every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one
>> object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some
>> degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files
>> rendering at the same time.
>>
>> Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
>>
>> Would appreciate comments.
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Bob Carter
Mon, Feb 28, 2022 5:51 PM
I tend to have several different releases/overnights of OpenSCAD in my Mac’s applications folder. I just rename the top level application folder, so if one is going to be busy for a while I can just start another version and use that for the time being.
On 27 Feb 2022, at 03:46, Father Horton fatherhorton@gmail.com wrote:
I was wondering if you were on a Mac. Yes, Mac OS's built-in behavior makes this harder.
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 9:42 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net mailto:hugo@apres.net> wrote:
You can (or so I’ve heard)… but (at least on a mac) it requires you to launch the second instance from a terminal window. Of course that’s doable, but if its not difficult to implement, why not incorporate it into the distro. There’s lots of things one can “do” that are more easily convenient and handled by built-in functionality. For example, I might argue that you don’t really need the “cube” … “cylinder([size], $fn = 4) will accomplish the same thing… particularly when prefaced by a “scale” operator.
On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Father Horton <fatherhorton@gmail.com mailto:fatherhorton@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net mailto:hugo@apres.net> wrote:
As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a preview/render is already underway.
I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m waiting.
I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files rendering at the same time.
Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
Would appreciate comments.
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I tend to have several different releases/overnights of OpenSCAD in my Mac’s applications folder. I just rename the top level application folder, so if one is going to be busy for a while I can just start another version and use that for the time being.
> On 27 Feb 2022, at 03:46, Father Horton <fatherhorton@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was wondering if you were on a Mac. Yes, Mac OS's built-in behavior makes this harder.
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 9:42 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net <mailto:hugo@apres.net>> wrote:
> You can (or so I’ve heard)… but (at least on a mac) it requires you to launch the second instance from a terminal window. Of course that’s doable, but if its not difficult to implement, why not incorporate it into the distro. There’s lots of things one can “do” that are more easily convenient and handled by built-in functionality. For example, I might argue that you don’t really need the “cube” … “cylinder([size], $fn = 4) will accomplish the same thing… particularly when prefaced by a “scale” operator.
>
>> On Feb 26, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Father Horton <fatherhorton@gmail.com <mailto:fatherhorton@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Can you just run a second instance of OpenSCAD?
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 8:49 PM Hugo Jackson <hugo@apres.net <mailto:hugo@apres.net>> wrote:
>> As users of OpenSCAD know, you can’t preview/render a second file while a preview/render is already underway.
>> I find this often frustrating in that I often have more than one file/project that i’m working on, and some of these take a long long time to render meaning that I have to find something else to do while I’m waiting.
>>
>> I’m well aware that OpenSCAD can’t be multi-threaded, but how difficult would it be to have OpenSCAD fork a copy of the render process so that you could have more than one file rendering at a time… say one process for every window? I appreciate that would not improve the speed of any one object rendering and may in fact slow it down, but it would yield some degree of efficiency if one could have 2 or 3 or whatever different files rendering at the same time.
>>
>> Or maybe I just don’t understand the basics.
>>
>> Would appreciate comments.
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