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jon
Mon, Mar 16, 2015 6:09 PM

Is this helpful?  Maybe it is blowing up in the ATI driver

Faulting application name: openscad.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp:
0x54ff43ac
Faulting module name: atio6axx.dll, version: 6.14.10.12618, time stamp:
0x53b756ff
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000000000191154
Faulting process id: 0x520
Faulting application start time: 0x01d05ffff37b9be0
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\OpenSCAD\openscad.exe
Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\atio6axx.dll
Report Id: 48060de5-cbf7-11e4-be7a-086266262bb2
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

- System

- Provider

[ *Name*] 	Application Error

- EventID 1000

[ *Qualifiers*] 	0





*Level* 	2





*Task* 	100





*Keywords* 	0x80000000000000

- TimeCreated

[ *SystemTime*] 	2015-03-16T16:12:46.000000000Z





*EventRecordID* 	7556





*Channel* 	Application





*Computer* 	Win8Oct





*Security*

- EventData

openscad.exe




0.0.0.0




54ff43ac




atio6axx.dll




6.14.10.12618




53b756ff




c0000005




0000000000191154




520




01d05ffff37b9be0




C:\Program Files\OpenSCAD\openscad.exe




C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\atio6axx.dll




48060de5-cbf7-11e4-be7a-086266262bb2

On 3/16/2015 1:04 PM, Marius Kintel wrote:

Jon,

Is it possible to provide some sort of stack trace, so we can see where it crashes?
Perhaps from the Event Log ?

-Marius


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Is this helpful? Maybe it is blowing up in the ATI driver Faulting application name: openscad.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x54ff43ac Faulting module name: atio6axx.dll, version: 6.14.10.12618, time stamp: 0x53b756ff Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x0000000000191154 Faulting process id: 0x520 Faulting application start time: 0x01d05ffff37b9be0 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\OpenSCAD\openscad.exe Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\atio6axx.dll Report Id: 48060de5-cbf7-11e4-be7a-086266262bb2 Faulting package full name: Faulting package-relative application ID: *-* *System* *-* *Provider* [ *Name*] Application Error *-* *EventID* 1000 [ *Qualifiers*] 0 *Level* 2 *Task* 100 *Keywords* 0x80000000000000 *-* *TimeCreated* [ *SystemTime*] 2015-03-16T16:12:46.000000000Z *EventRecordID* 7556 *Channel* Application *Computer* Win8Oct *Security* *-* *EventData* openscad.exe 0.0.0.0 54ff43ac atio6axx.dll 6.14.10.12618 53b756ff c0000005 0000000000191154 520 01d05ffff37b9be0 C:\Program Files\OpenSCAD\openscad.exe C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\atio6axx.dll 48060de5-cbf7-11e4-be7a-086266262bb2 On 3/16/2015 1:04 PM, Marius Kintel wrote: > Jon, > > Is it possible to provide some sort of stack trace, so we can see where it crashes? > Perhaps from the Event Log ? > > -Marius > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4306/9314 - Release Date: 03/16/15 > >
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Yvette S. Hirth, CCP, CDP
Mon, Mar 16, 2015 6:33 PM

On 03/16/2015 08:13 AM, jon wrote:

The following code crashed F6 after perhaps 45 minutes, consuming 1.7 GB
of RAM.

on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS, running openscad 2014.03, it took 37 seconds.
system monitor shows openscad as using 782MB of storage (still open).

i would test 2015.03, but i'm having build issues on ubuntu.  8^(

video card info:

root@YGH:~# lspci
(snippage)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd
Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)

cpu info:

root@YGH:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor(s) : 0-7
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 58
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
stepping : 9
microcode : 0x17
cpu MHz : 1600.000
cache size : 8192 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 8
core id : 3
cpu cores : 4
apicid : 7
initial apicid : 7
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx
rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology
nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx
smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt
tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm ida arat epb
xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase
smep erms
bogomips : 6819.78
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual

hth
yvette

On 03/16/2015 08:13 AM, jon wrote: > The following code crashed F6 after perhaps 45 minutes, consuming 1.7 GB > of RAM. on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS, running openscad 2014.03, it took 37 seconds. system monitor shows openscad as using 782MB of storage (still open). i would test 2015.03, but i'm having build issues on ubuntu. 8^( video card info: root@YGH:~# lspci (snippage) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) cpu info: root@YGH:~# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor(s) : 0-7 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 58 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz stepping : 9 microcode : 0x17 cpu MHz : 1600.000 cache size : 8192 KB physical id : 0 siblings : 8 core id : 3 cpu cores : 4 apicid : 7 initial apicid : 7 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 13 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase smep erms bogomips : 6819.78 clflush size : 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual hth yvette
MK
Marius Kintel
Mon, Mar 16, 2015 6:48 PM

On Mar 16, 2015, at 14:09 PM, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

Is this helpful?  Maybe it is blowing up in the ATI driver

That definitely looks like an ATI driver crash.
Could you try installing some other versions of the driver and see if that helps?

..or perhaps even turn off acceleration (not sure how that works under Windows though).

-Marius

On Mar 16, 2015, at 14:09 PM, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > Is this helpful? Maybe it is blowing up in the ATI driver > That definitely looks like an ATI driver crash. Could you try installing some other versions of the driver and see if that helps? ..or perhaps even turn off acceleration (not sure how that works under Windows though). -Marius
J
jon
Mon, Mar 16, 2015 7:18 PM

Downloading the 3rd set of drivers in the last 30 minutes.  Each one is
"best" but this one claims to be best-er.  We will see.

Marius: are you saying that the little test script executes F6 in 2-3
seconds on your computer?  I'm running eight cores at 4 GHz with 8 GB of
RAM and it takes 18 minutes and then crashes.  I can imagine something
about the video drivers that might have a problem with the data that F6
creates, but I cannot understand how that might make the underlying
calculations take that much longer.  Does OpenSCAD use video cores for
computations, in addition to CPU cores?

On 3/16/2015 2:48 PM, Marius Kintel wrote:

On Mar 16, 2015, at 14:09 PM, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

Is this helpful?  Maybe it is blowing up in the ATI driver

That definitely looks like an ATI driver crash.
Could you try installing some other versions of the driver and see if that helps?

..or perhaps even turn off acceleration (not sure how that works under Windows though).

-Marius


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Downloading the 3rd set of drivers in the last 30 minutes. Each one is "best" but this one claims to be best-er. We will see. Marius: are you saying that the little test script executes F6 in 2-3 seconds on your computer? I'm running eight cores at 4 GHz with 8 GB of RAM and it takes 18 minutes and then crashes. I can imagine something about the video drivers that might have a problem with the data that F6 creates, but I cannot understand how that might make the underlying calculations take that much longer. Does OpenSCAD use video cores for computations, in addition to CPU cores? On 3/16/2015 2:48 PM, Marius Kintel wrote: > On Mar 16, 2015, at 14:09 PM, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > >> Is this helpful? Maybe it is blowing up in the ATI driver >> > That definitely looks like an ATI driver crash. > Could you try installing some other versions of the driver and see if that helps? > > ..or perhaps even turn off acceleration (not sure how that works under Windows though). > > -Marius > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4306/9317 - Release Date: 03/16/15 > >
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tdeagan
Mon, Mar 16, 2015 7:23 PM

Running 2015.03 on 64 bit Windows 8.1 in normal (not compatibility) mode I
can successfully F5 and F6 the test code.  F6 takes 2 minutes, 46 seconds to
run.

Running on the same machine in Windows 8 compatibility mode, F5 works, but
F6 is sucking up hordes of memory and taking forever (over 20 minutes so
far.)

(This is my Win 8.1 laptop running 2015.03, the VM is giving me fits and
refusing to step up to OpenGL 2.0 or better.)

So I am seeing something problematic, but without knowing the specifics of
what stepping down to Win 8 compatibility from Win 8.1, I can't say what it
might be.

--Tim

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Running 2015.03 on 64 bit Windows 8.1 in normal (not compatibility) mode I can successfully F5 and F6 the test code. F6 takes 2 minutes, 46 seconds to run. Running on the same machine in Windows 8 compatibility mode, F5 works, but F6 is sucking up hordes of memory and taking forever (over 20 minutes so far.) (This is my Win 8.1 laptop running 2015.03, the VM is giving me fits and refusing to step up to OpenGL 2.0 or better.) So I am seeing something problematic, but without knowing the specifics of what stepping down to Win 8 compatibility from Win 8.1, I can't say what it might be. --Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/crashing-again-tp11989p12055.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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jon
Mon, Mar 16, 2015 7:32 PM

Tim:

Right you are.  Once I remove the compatibility mode, the test program I
supplied runs successfully in 1:12.

I am now using new drivers.  Focusing more on getting it right than on
finding the smoking gun, especially if there turns out to be no gun.

I will now test the proprietary scripts

Jon

On 3/16/2015 3:23 PM, tdeagan wrote:

Running 2015.03 on 64 bit Windows 8.1 in normal (not compatibility) mode I
can successfully F5 and F6 the test code.  F6 takes 2 minutes, 46 seconds to
run.

Running on the same machine in Windows 8 compatibility mode, F5 works, but
F6 is sucking up hordes of memory and taking forever (over 20 minutes so
far.)

(This is my Win 8.1 laptop running 2015.03, the VM is giving me fits and
refusing to step up to OpenGL 2.0 or better.)

So I am seeing something problematic, but without knowing the specifics of
what stepping down to Win 8 compatibility from Win 8.1, I can't say what it
might be.

--Tim

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Tim: Right you are. Once I remove the compatibility mode, the test program I supplied runs successfully in 1:12. I am now using new drivers. Focusing more on getting it right than on finding the smoking gun, especially if there turns out to be no gun. I will now test the proprietary scripts Jon On 3/16/2015 3:23 PM, tdeagan wrote: > Running 2015.03 on 64 bit Windows 8.1 in normal (not compatibility) mode I > can successfully F5 and F6 the test code. F6 takes 2 minutes, 46 seconds to > run. > > Running on the same machine in Windows 8 compatibility mode, F5 works, but > F6 is sucking up hordes of memory and taking forever (over 20 minutes so > far.) > > (This is my Win 8.1 laptop running 2015.03, the VM is giving me fits and > refusing to step up to OpenGL 2.0 or better.) > > So I am seeing something problematic, but without knowing the specifics of > what stepping down to Win 8 compatibility from Win 8.1, I can't say what it > might be. > > --Tim > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/crashing-again-tp11989p12055.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4306/9317 - Release Date: 03/16/15 > >
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jon
Mon, Mar 16, 2015 7:35 PM

And the proprietary code runs in 37 seconds, even with $fa and $fs set.

Not sure if it was the drivers or the compatibility mode, but things are
working great here now.

I hope that this helps someone else in the future

Thank you for all of your help!

Jon

On 3/16/2015 3:23 PM, tdeagan wrote:

Running 2015.03 on 64 bit Windows 8.1 in normal (not compatibility) mode I
can successfully F5 and F6 the test code.  F6 takes 2 minutes, 46 seconds to
run.

Running on the same machine in Windows 8 compatibility mode, F5 works, but
F6 is sucking up hordes of memory and taking forever (over 20 minutes so
far.)

(This is my Win 8.1 laptop running 2015.03, the VM is giving me fits and
refusing to step up to OpenGL 2.0 or better.)

So I am seeing something problematic, but without knowing the specifics of
what stepping down to Win 8 compatibility from Win 8.1, I can't say what it
might be.

--Tim

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And the proprietary code runs in 37 seconds, even with $fa and $fs set. Not sure if it was the drivers or the compatibility mode, but things are working great here now. I hope that this helps someone else in the future Thank you for all of your help! Jon On 3/16/2015 3:23 PM, tdeagan wrote: > Running 2015.03 on 64 bit Windows 8.1 in normal (not compatibility) mode I > can successfully F5 and F6 the test code. F6 takes 2 minutes, 46 seconds to > run. > > Running on the same machine in Windows 8 compatibility mode, F5 works, but > F6 is sucking up hordes of memory and taking forever (over 20 minutes so > far.) > > (This is my Win 8.1 laptop running 2015.03, the VM is giving me fits and > refusing to step up to OpenGL 2.0 or better.) > > So I am seeing something problematic, but without knowing the specifics of > what stepping down to Win 8 compatibility from Win 8.1, I can't say what it > might be. > > --Tim > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/crashing-again-tp11989p12055.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5751 / Virus Database: 4306/9317 - Release Date: 03/16/15 > >
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MichaelAtOz
Tue, Mar 17, 2015 12:09 AM

For posterity:

$fa=1;

translate([0, 100, 0])
difference() {
cylinder(h=75, r=20, $fn=100);
translate([0, 0, -2])
cylinder(h=80, r=17, $fn=100);
}

difference() {
sphere(r=45);
sphere(r=40);
}

On W7/64 4GB 2.53GHz 2 Core

2014.03/32 (don't have 64 installed)
F5 0s F6 9m16s ~1GB
2015.03/64
F5 0s F6 1m34s ~0.8GB

Great improvement with the new release.


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For posterity: $fa=1; translate([0, 100, 0]) difference() { cylinder(h=75, r=20, $fn=100); translate([0, 0, -2]) cylinder(h=80, r=17, $fn=100); } difference() { sphere(r=45); sphere(r=40); } On W7/64 4GB 2.53GHz 2 Core 2014.03/32 (don't have 64 installed) F5 0s F6 9m16s ~1GB 2015.03/64 F5 0s F6 1m34s ~0.8GB Great improvement with the new release. ----- Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; To the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. This work is published globally via the internet. :) Inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/crashing-again-tp11989p12066.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Stephan Hennig
Tue, Mar 17, 2015 8:07 PM

Am 17.03.2015 um 01:09 schrieb MichaelAtOz:

On W7/64 4GB 2.53GHz 2 Core

2014.03/32 (don't have 64 installed)
F5 0s F6 9m16s ~1GB
2015.03/64
F5 0s F6 1m34s ~0.8GB

Great improvement with the new release.

Can't reproduce the 2014.03/32 numbers:

    \ build   32bit   64bit

release\

2014.03        1m54s  1m30s
2015.03        2m01s  1m37s

Which indicates there is a speed-up for this example, but not with
releases, but with build targets.

Anyway, nice release indeed!  In a lot of ways!

Best regards,
Stephan Hennig

W7/64 on a dated 2.4 GHz Core2Duo Mobile with 2 GB
OpenGL Version: 2.0.0 - Build 8.14.10.1930
GL Renderer: Intel 965/963 Graphics Media Accelerator
All measurements taken with pre-compiled binaries from ZIP distribution.

Am 17.03.2015 um 01:09 schrieb MichaelAtOz: > On W7/64 4GB 2.53GHz 2 Core > > 2014.03/32 (don't have 64 installed) > F5 0s F6 9m16s ~1GB > 2015.03/64 > F5 0s F6 1m34s ~0.8GB > > Great improvement with the new release. Can't reproduce the 2014.03/32 numbers: \ build 32bit 64bit release\ 2014.03 1m54s 1m30s 2015.03 2m01s 1m37s Which indicates there is a speed-up for this example, but not with releases, but with build targets. Anyway, nice release indeed! In a lot of ways! Best regards, Stephan Hennig W7/64 on a dated 2.4 GHz Core2Duo Mobile with 2 GB OpenGL Version: 2.0.0 - Build 8.14.10.1930 GL Renderer: Intel 965/963 Graphics Media Accelerator All measurements taken with pre-compiled binaries from ZIP distribution.