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gene heskett
Sat, May 3, 2025 8:09 PM
On 4/30/25 07:53, Ken via Discuss wrote:
Thank you Gentlemen- based on your replies, I think I will go with
ubuntu as I have a small familiarity with it, and there is a lot of
on-line help available for neophytes like myself. Unfortunately,
almost no help locally, pretty much everyone I know is firmly wedded
to windows or mac- but hey, I'm only 76, plenty of time & brain cells
left to learn aother o/s🙂
A youngster yet. I'm 90 yo, went straight from trs80 color computer
running os9 to amigados, then to linux in 1998. Only owned a windows
machine for about a week, forced to pay the M$ tax to get a lappy to run
roadmap after I retired and did some consulting work for a few years
putting out engineering fires at tv stations.. Mandrake ran its network
radio where xp couldn't. Now I build faster 3d printers and cnc
machinery writing my own stuff to drive the cnc stuff.
On 2025-04-30 20:34, Chun Kit LAM via Discuss wrote:
I don't think there is a distro difference for openscad.
The AppImages, I run the weekly, remove 99% of the distro variations.
Maybe you will want to use those fancy kernel builds, e.g. xanmod,
for slightly better performance. You may want to look at Phoronix for
performance comparison.
But to be honest, this should not influence your distro choice.
Choose your distro based on your needs, e.g. rolling release vs more
stable, package support, whether you are willing to tinker with the
settings, etc.
IMPORTANT: Don't take the openscad benchmark result in Phoronix into
account, it is the older stable version where performance
characteristics is very different from the manifold backend.
That difference in speed is huge.
On 4/30/25 18:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro
that is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
strange and special issues.
Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
would be:
In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
articles/videos/reports.
From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
too.
ciao,
Torsten.
OpenSCAD mailing list
To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
On 4/30/25 07:53, Ken via Discuss wrote:
> Thank you Gentlemen- based on your replies, I think I will go with
> ubuntu as I have a small familiarity with it, and there is a lot of
> on-line help available for neophytes like myself. Unfortunately,
> almost no help locally, pretty much everyone I know is firmly wedded
> to windows or mac- but hey, I'm only 76, plenty of time & brain cells
> left to learn aother o/s🙂
A youngster yet. I'm 90 yo, went straight from trs80 color computer
running os9 to amigados, then to linux in 1998. Only owned a windows
machine for about a week, forced to pay the M$ tax to get a lappy to run
roadmap after I retired and did some consulting work for a few years
putting out engineering fires at tv stations.. Mandrake ran its network
radio where xp couldn't. Now I build faster 3d printers and cnc
machinery writing my own stuff to drive the cnc stuff.
> On 2025-04-30 20:34, Chun Kit LAM via Discuss wrote:
>> I don't think there is a distro difference for openscad.
The AppImages, I run the weekly, remove 99% of the distro variations.
>> Maybe you will want to use those fancy kernel builds, e.g. xanmod,
>> for slightly better performance. You may want to look at Phoronix for
>> performance comparison.
>>
>> But to be honest, this should not influence your distro choice.
>> Choose your distro based on your needs, e.g. rolling release vs more
>> stable, package support, whether you are willing to tinker with the
>> settings, etc.
>>
>> IMPORTANT: Don't take the openscad benchmark result in Phoronix into
>> account, it is the older stable version where performance
>> characteristics is very different from the manifold backend.
That difference in speed is huge.
>>
>> On 4/30/25 18:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
>>> On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
>>>> Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
>>>> the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro
>>>> that is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
>>>
>>> Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
>>> strange and special issues.
>>>
>>> Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
>>> would be:
>>>
>>> In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
>>> feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
>>> Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
>>> articles/videos/reports.
>>>
>>> From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
>>> toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
>>> many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
>>> too.
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>> Torsten.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OpenSCAD mailing list
>>> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
F
FPA
Wed, May 7, 2025 5:54 PM
I have good experience with
a) Linux Mint in general (it replaced WIN 10 now for over three years), and
b) with OpenSCAD v2024.08.18 & v2025.02.16, both as AppImage on Linux
Mint v21.3.
I haven't noted anything troubling on my installation.
Cheers
On 2025-04-30 06:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro that
is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
strange and special issues.
Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
would be:
In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
articles/videos/reports.
From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
too.
ciao,
Torsten.
OpenSCAD mailing list
To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
I have good experience with
a) Linux Mint in general (it replaced WIN 10 now for over three years), and
b) with OpenSCAD v2024.08.18 & v2025.02.16, both as AppImage on Linux
Mint v21.3.
I haven't noted anything troubling on my installation.
Cheers
On 2025-04-30 06:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
> On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
>> Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
>> the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro that
>> is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
>
> Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
> strange and special issues.
>
> Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
> would be:
>
> In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
> feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
> Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
> articles/videos/reports.
>
> From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
> toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
> many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
> too.
>
> ciao,
> Torsten.
> _______________________________________________
> OpenSCAD mailing list
> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
TH
Triffid Hunter
Mon, May 12, 2025 4:31 PM
The main difference between Linux distros is how the package manager and
upstream repos assemble and offer various packages.
The actual package list and their functionality has rather less variation,
so it really shouldn't matter which distro you choose to start playing with
- distro choice only becomes important when you start having opinions about
the package manager's management strategy and the package list it pulls.
For Linux noobs I typically suggest Mint since it's basically Ubuntu with
the various Canonical stupidity stripped out - and Ubuntu is basically
Debian with a bunch of stupidity added, however Debian is designed for old
hands and may be a little rougher around the edges than Mint in some
regards.
Personally I use Gentoo because I'm a power user and I want my package
manager to do whatever bizarre stuff I ask with a minimum of fuss - but
Gentoo is absolutely not for Linux noobs because it looks like complexity
for complexity's sake until and unless you're palpably upset with basically
every other package manager, and only after you've reached that level of
profound frustration does its core focus on flexibility at the cost of some
level of complexity start to make sense.
(and fwiw OpenSCAD works perfectly fine in Gentoo as well)
On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 17:54, FPA via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org
wrote:
I have good experience with
a) Linux Mint in general (it replaced WIN 10 now for over three years), and
b) with OpenSCAD v2024.08.18 & v2025.02.16, both as AppImage on Linux
Mint v21.3.
I haven't noted anything troubling on my installation.
Cheers
On 2025-04-30 06:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro that
is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
strange and special issues.
Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
would be:
In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
articles/videos/reports.
From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
too.
ciao,
Torsten.
OpenSCAD mailing list
To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
The main difference between Linux distros is *how* the package manager and
upstream repos assemble and offer various packages.
The actual package list and their functionality has rather less variation,
so it really shouldn't matter which distro you choose to start playing with
- distro choice only becomes important when you start having opinions about
the package manager's management strategy and the package list it pulls.
For Linux noobs I typically suggest Mint since it's basically Ubuntu with
the various Canonical stupidity stripped out - and Ubuntu is basically
Debian with a bunch of stupidity added, however Debian is designed for old
hands and may be a little rougher around the edges than Mint in some
regards.
Personally I use Gentoo because I'm a power user and I want my package
manager to do whatever bizarre stuff I ask with a minimum of fuss - but
Gentoo is absolutely *not* for Linux noobs because it looks like complexity
for complexity's sake until and unless you're palpably upset with basically
every other package manager, and only after you've reached that level of
profound frustration does its core focus on flexibility at the cost of some
level of complexity start to make sense.
(and fwiw OpenSCAD works perfectly fine in Gentoo as well)
On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 17:54, FPA via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org>
wrote:
> I have good experience with
>
> a) Linux Mint in general (it replaced WIN 10 now for over three years), and
>
> b) with OpenSCAD v2024.08.18 & v2025.02.16, both as AppImage on Linux
> Mint v21.3.
>
> I haven't noted anything troubling on my installation.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On 2025-04-30 06:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
> > On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
> >> Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
> >> the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro that
> >> is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
> >
> > Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
> > strange and special issues.
> >
> > Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
> > would be:
> >
> > In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
> > feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
> > Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
> > articles/videos/reports.
> >
> > From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
> > toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
> > many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
> > too.
> >
> > ciao,
> > Torsten.
> > _______________________________________________
> > OpenSCAD mailing list
> > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
> _______________________________________________
> OpenSCAD mailing list
> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>
JD
John David
Mon, May 12, 2025 6:12 PM
That is the Best description of Gentoo I have ever heard of ;-))) I ran
Gentoo from ~2002-2023, and then switched to Pop_OS! because it came
preinstalled on my System76 laptop. At this point, I am spending almost as
much time poking around the edges of Pop_OS!'s breakage as I did after
setting up Gentoo on a box. I'm serious thinking of installing Gentoo on
the second drive and use System76 to maintain things like the kernel build
parames (which is the most twiddly-bit that is a pain...
Anyway, I raise my glass to another Gentoo user ;-)
EBo --
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 12:31 PM Triffid Hunter via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
The main difference between Linux distros is how the package manager
and upstream repos assemble and offer various packages.
The actual package list and their functionality has rather less variation,
so it really shouldn't matter which distro you choose to start playing with
- distro choice only becomes important when you start having opinions about
the package manager's management strategy and the package list it pulls.
For Linux noobs I typically suggest Mint since it's basically Ubuntu with
the various Canonical stupidity stripped out - and Ubuntu is basically
Debian with a bunch of stupidity added, however Debian is designed for old
hands and may be a little rougher around the edges than Mint in some
regards.
Personally I use Gentoo because I'm a power user and I want my package
manager to do whatever bizarre stuff I ask with a minimum of fuss - but
Gentoo is absolutely not for Linux noobs because it looks like
complexity for complexity's sake until and unless you're palpably upset
with basically every other package manager, and only after you've reached
that level of profound frustration does its core focus on flexibility at
the cost of some level of complexity start to make sense.
(and fwiw OpenSCAD works perfectly fine in Gentoo as well)
On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 17:54, FPA via Discuss discuss@lists.openscad.org
wrote:
I have good experience with
a) Linux Mint in general (it replaced WIN 10 now for over three years),
and
b) with OpenSCAD v2024.08.18 & v2025.02.16, both as AppImage on Linux
Mint v21.3.
I haven't noted anything troubling on my installation.
Cheers
On 2025-04-30 06:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro that
is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
strange and special issues.
Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
would be:
In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
articles/videos/reports.
From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
too.
ciao,
Torsten.
OpenSCAD mailing list
To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
That is the Best description of Gentoo I have ever heard of ;-))) I ran
Gentoo from ~2002-2023, and then switched to Pop_OS! because it came
preinstalled on my System76 laptop. At this point, I am spending almost as
much time poking around the edges of Pop_OS!'s breakage as I did after
setting up Gentoo on a box. I'm serious thinking of installing Gentoo on
the second drive and use System76 to maintain things like the kernel build
parames (which is the most twiddly-bit that is a pain...
Anyway, I raise my glass to another Gentoo user ;-)
EBo --
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 12:31 PM Triffid Hunter via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
> The main difference between Linux distros is *how* the package manager
> and upstream repos assemble and offer various packages.
>
> The actual package list and their functionality has rather less variation,
> so it really shouldn't matter which distro you choose to start playing with
> - distro choice only becomes important when you start having opinions about
> the package manager's management strategy and the package list it pulls.
>
> For Linux noobs I typically suggest Mint since it's basically Ubuntu with
> the various Canonical stupidity stripped out - and Ubuntu is basically
> Debian with a bunch of stupidity added, however Debian is designed for old
> hands and may be a little rougher around the edges than Mint in some
> regards.
>
> Personally I use Gentoo because I'm a power user and I want my package
> manager to do whatever bizarre stuff I ask with a minimum of fuss - but
> Gentoo is absolutely *not* for Linux noobs because it looks like
> complexity for complexity's sake until and unless you're palpably upset
> with basically every other package manager, and only after you've reached
> that level of profound frustration does its core focus on flexibility at
> the cost of some level of complexity start to make sense.
>
> (and fwiw OpenSCAD works perfectly fine in Gentoo as well)
>
> On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 17:54, FPA via Discuss <discuss@lists.openscad.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I have good experience with
>>
>> a) Linux Mint in general (it replaced WIN 10 now for over three years),
>> and
>>
>> b) with OpenSCAD v2024.08.18 & v2025.02.16, both as AppImage on Linux
>> Mint v21.3.
>>
>> I haven't noted anything troubling on my installation.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On 2025-04-30 06:17, Torsten Paul via Discuss wrote:
>> > On 30.04.25 05:09, Ken via Discuss wrote:
>> >> Looking ahead to October and the end of Win10 free support- and at
>> >> the risk of starting a war- is there any particular linux distro that
>> >> is markedly better than others when it comes to openscad?
>> >
>> > Not an easy question to answer, as there are always chances for
>> > strange and special issues.
>> >
>> > Without knowing your previous experience with Linux, my advice
>> > would be:
>> >
>> > In general, find and select a well maintained distribution you
>> > feel at home overall (e.g. people you know use it and can help).
>> > Or just go for one of the big players where it's easier to find
>> > articles/videos/reports.
>> >
>> > From official OpenSCAD builds there's a slight preference leaning
>> > toward Debian/Ubuntu but we really try to provide options for as
>> > many people as possible and most distros do the same on their own
>> > too.
>> >
>> > ciao,
>> > Torsten.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OpenSCAD mailing list
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>> _______________________________________________
>> OpenSCAD mailing list
>> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
>>
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