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all this talk about ellipses has me a bit confused

GH
gene heskett
Sun, Aug 7, 2022 10:45 PM

Greetings all;

I get the impression that my definition of an ellipse is a misnomer.

So this is an example of how I generated what I needed when designing a
harmonic drive of
whats known as the loose belt variation, and something like this defined
the armature.

module example_el()
{ $fn=128;
    cl=30;
    cd=40;
    el=.50;
    scale([1+el,1-el,1])
    cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true);
}
example_el();

But in my case, the requirement that it survive when printed in PETG,
which is much stronger
than PLA, limits el to something in the .04 to .05 area since the drive
gets to the belt via
a 4 row wide ball bearing, also printed, and filled with BB's for balls,
with the actual belt
on the outside of these printed bearings. The basic requirement for the
geometry is such that
the belt with twice the gear ratios number of splines on its outer
surface must be pulled free of
the outer rings at the minimum radius point, the outer rings having
matching splines but one
has 100 splines the other has 102. The 100 is locked to the housing and
the 102 is locked to
the output shaft, giving a backlash free if everything is fitted
correctly, 50/1 gear ratio.

Now the question:

Are you telling me the above should not be called an ellipse?

If that is the case, what is the proper name for it?

================

Unfortunately while that ran at creep speeds for a year, cranking up the
input speeds to get
the output speed I needed soon ran into 2 problems I could not fix,
first being the max speed
of the stepper motor I was going to use, about 2.5 grand, second was the
difficulty of finding
a lubricant for those BB's that didn't heat from the viscosity when the
BB's were spinning at
those speeds, heating the bearing races to the point of softening the
PETG they were printed
from, eventually destroying them.

So I put that motor in front of a 5/1 $70 worm drive, and printed the
output chuck to drive a
2x2x22 inch stick of hard maple. I'm carving woodworker's vise screws,
but a heck of a lot
better than the 100 yo stuff for sale on ebay at prices up to $259 USD
ATM. Everything from
the stick out is printed from designs I've made in OpenSCAD.

Many thanks for OpenSCAD. Even I can understand most of it at my 87
years, FreeCAD, not so much.

Take care, and stay well everybody.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

Greetings all; I get the impression that my definition of an ellipse is a misnomer. So this is an example of how I generated what I needed when designing a harmonic drive of whats known as the loose belt variation, and something like this defined the armature. module example_el() { $fn=128;     cl=30;     cd=40;     el=.50;     scale([1+el,1-el,1])     cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true); } example_el(); But in my case, the requirement that it survive when printed in PETG, which is much stronger than PLA, limits el to something in the .04 to .05 area since the drive gets to the belt via a 4 row wide ball bearing, also printed, and filled with BB's for balls, with the actual belt on the outside of these printed bearings. The basic requirement for the geometry is such that the belt with twice the gear ratios number of splines on its outer surface must be pulled free of the outer rings at the minimum radius point, the outer rings having matching splines but one has 100 splines the other has 102. The 100 is locked to the housing and the 102 is locked to the output shaft, giving a backlash free if everything is fitted correctly, 50/1 gear ratio. Now the question: Are you telling me the above should not be called an ellipse? If that is the case, what is the proper name for it? ================ Unfortunately while that ran at creep speeds for a year, cranking up the input speeds to get the output speed I needed soon ran into 2 problems I could not fix, first being the max speed of the stepper motor I was going to use, about 2.5 grand, second was the difficulty of finding a lubricant for those BB's that didn't heat from the viscosity when the BB's were spinning at those speeds, heating the bearing races to the point of softening the PETG they were printed from, eventually destroying them. So I put that motor in front of a 5/1 $70 worm drive, and printed the output chuck to drive a 2x2x22 inch stick of hard maple. I'm carving woodworker's vise screws, but a heck of a lot better than the 100 yo stuff for sale on ebay at prices up to $259 USD ATM. Everything from the stick out is printed from designs I've made in OpenSCAD. Many thanks for OpenSCAD. Even I can understand most of it at my 87 years, FreeCAD, not so much. Take care, and stay well everybody. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>
L
larry
Mon, Aug 8, 2022 2:28 PM

On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 18:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all;
I get the impression that my definition of an ellipse is a misnomer.

So this is an example of how I generated what I needed when designing
a harmonic drive of whats known as the loose belt variation, and
something like this defined the armature.

module example_el()
{ $fn=128;
cl=30;
cd=40;
el=.50;
scale([1+el,1-el,1])
cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true);
}
example_el();

I used a BOSL2 example (ellipse, example 6) to generate an ellipse with
your dimensions, extruded it, and placed them so they are congruent.

Dunno about the math, but they look the same in outline.

include <BOSL2/std.scad>
r=[30,10];

module be() {
back (3.5)
ydistribute(7)
stroke([ellipse(r=r, $fn=100)],width=0.05,color="blue");
}
module example_el()

{ $fn=128;
cl=30;
cd=40;
el=.50;
scale([1+el,1-el,1])
cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true);
}

linear_extrude (10)
be();

#example_el();

On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 18:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > I get the impression that my definition of an ellipse is a misnomer. > > So this is an example of how I generated what I needed when designing > a harmonic drive of whats known as the loose belt variation, and > something like this defined the armature. > > module example_el() > { $fn=128; > cl=30; > cd=40; > el=.50; > scale([1+el,1-el,1]) > cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true); > } > example_el(); I used a BOSL2 example (ellipse, example 6) to generate an ellipse with your dimensions, extruded it, and placed them so they are congruent. Dunno about the math, but they look the same in outline. include <BOSL2/std.scad> r=[30,10]; module be() { back (3.5) ydistribute(7) stroke([ellipse(r=r, $fn=100)],width=0.05,color="blue"); } module example_el() { $fn=128; cl=30; cd=40; el=.50; scale([1+el,1-el,1]) cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true); } linear_extrude (10) be(); #example_el();
GH
gene heskett
Mon, Aug 8, 2022 4:25 PM

On 8/8/22 10:31, larry wrote:

On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 18:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote:

Greetings all;
I get the impression that my definition of an ellipse is a misnomer.

So this is an example of how I generated what I needed when designing
a harmonic drive of whats known as the loose belt variation, and
something like this defined the armature.

module example_el()
{ $fn=128;
cl=30;
cd=40;
el=.50;
scale([1+el,1-el,1])
cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true);
}
example_el();

I used a BOSL2 example (ellipse, example 6) to generate an ellipse with
your dimensions, extruded it, and placed them so they are congruent.

Dunno about the math, but they look the same in outline.

That makes me feel better. I just wish it could be geared below 30/1 but
the amount of
ellipse then needed was rapidly approaching the limitation of PETG vs
working life time.
It was the bearing races, possibly fixable by steel needles in thinner
printed cylinders
with some sort of retainer flanges of minimal height. The loose belts
strength was not
a huge problem, but the thicker sides of the ball bearing races were
when the center was
thick enough to resist the splitting force of the balls. For the project
I wanted to do, the
5/1 worm was optimal.

I'm carving a vise screw, a big one, in hard maple, with buttress
thread, then
printing the half nuts and everything but the oak dowel for a handle,
designed in
OpenSCAD and printed in straight PETG, or carbon fiber reinforced PETG.
Using a 6 mm thread, and 2 starts for a 12mm pitch makes both half nuts
identical.

These are the sort of screws I hope you would  build into your workbench
and then
pass on to your grandkids. 100 yo hand carved versions are selling for
nearly $300
on ebay if well preserved, but most aren't. Rode hard and put away wet
would be a
much better description.

Takes a couple days on the mill to make the screw, and 2 weeks to print
the rest of it,
only one working printer I've about $1500 in.

Some pix on my web page in the sig, add "6040.stf/vise-screw-pix". No
commershills
yet, that's actually this machine.

Keeps me out of the bars dont'cha know..

Take care and stay well all.

include <BOSL2/std.scad>
r=[30,10];

module be() {
back (3.5)
ydistribute(7)
stroke([ellipse(r=r, $fn=100)],width=0.05,color="blue");
}
module example_el()

{ $fn=128;
cl=30;
cd=40;
el=.50;
scale([1+el,1-el,1])
cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true);
}

linear_extrude (10)
be();

#example_el();


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Cheers, Gene Heskett.

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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

On 8/8/22 10:31, larry wrote: > On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 18:45 -0400, gene heskett wrote: >> Greetings all; >> I get the impression that my definition of an ellipse is a misnomer. >> >> So this is an example of how I generated what I needed when designing >> a harmonic drive of whats known as the loose belt variation, and >> something like this defined the armature. >> >> module example_el() >> { $fn=128; >> cl=30; >> cd=40; >> el=.50; >> scale([1+el,1-el,1]) >> cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true); >> } >> example_el(); > I used a BOSL2 example (ellipse, example 6) to generate an ellipse with > your dimensions, extruded it, and placed them so they are congruent. > > Dunno about the math, but they look the same in outline. That makes me feel better. I just wish it could be geared below 30/1 but the amount of ellipse then needed was rapidly approaching the limitation of PETG vs working life time. It was the bearing races, possibly fixable by steel needles in thinner printed cylinders with some sort of retainer flanges of minimal height. The loose belts strength was not a huge problem, but the thicker sides of the ball bearing races were when the center was thick enough to resist the splitting force of the balls. For the project I wanted to do, the 5/1 worm was optimal. I'm carving a vise screw, a big one, in hard maple, with buttress thread, then printing the half nuts and everything but the oak dowel for a handle, designed in OpenSCAD and printed in straight PETG, or carbon fiber reinforced PETG. Using a 6 mm thread, and 2 starts for a 12mm pitch makes both half nuts identical. These are the sort of screws I hope you would  build into your workbench and then pass on to your grandkids. 100 yo hand carved versions are selling for nearly $300 on ebay if well preserved, but most aren't. Rode hard and put away wet would be a much better description. Takes a couple days on the mill to make the screw, and 2 weeks to print the rest of it, only one working printer I've about $1500 in. Some pix on my web page in the sig, add "6040.stf/vise-screw-pix". No commershills yet, that's actually this machine. Keeps me out of the bars dont'cha know.. Take care and stay well all. > include <BOSL2/std.scad> > r=[30,10]; > > module be() { > back (3.5) > ydistribute(7) > stroke([ellipse(r=r, $fn=100)],width=0.05,color="blue"); > } > module example_el() > > > { $fn=128; > cl=30; > cd=40; > el=.50; > scale([1+el,1-el,1]) > cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true); > } > > linear_extrude (10) > be(); > > #example_el(); > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > . Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>
JB
Jordan Brown
Mon, Aug 8, 2022 4:49 PM

On 8/7/2022 3:45 PM, gene heskett wrote:

module example_el()
{ $fn=128;
    cl=30;
    cd=40;
    el=.50;
    scale([1+el,1-el,1])
    cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true);
}
example_el();

[...]

Are you telling me the above should not be called an ellipse?

If that is the case, what is the proper name for it?

Certainly its footprint is an ellipse.

But ellipses are 2D, and this is 3D.  Wikipedia seems to call it an
elliptic cylinder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder#Elliptic_cylinder

On 8/7/2022 3:45 PM, gene heskett wrote: > module example_el() > { $fn=128; >     cl=30; >     cd=40; >     el=.50; >     scale([1+el,1-el,1]) >     cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true); > } > example_el(); > > [...] > > Are you telling me the above should not be called an ellipse? > > If that is the case, what is the proper name for it? Certainly its footprint is an ellipse. But ellipses are 2D, and this is 3D.  Wikipedia seems to call it an elliptic cylinder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder#Elliptic_cylinder
GH
gene heskett
Mon, Aug 8, 2022 7:26 PM

On 8/8/22 12:52, Jordan Brown wrote:

On 8/7/2022 3:45 PM, gene heskett wrote:

module example_el()
{ $fn=128;
    cl=30;
    cd=40;
    el=.50;
    scale([1+el,1-el,1])
    cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true);
}
example_el();

[...]

Are you telling me the above should not be called an ellipse?

If that is the case, what is the proper name for it?

Certainly its footprint is an ellipse.

But ellipses are 2D, and this is 3D.  Wikipedia seems to call it an
elliptic cylinder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder#Elliptic_cylinder

Ahh, but I was doing the cylinder as a base, then scaling it. Worked
great at motor
speeds up to around a thousand rpm. I suppose Wikipedia is probably
correct, but to
me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all
well so
that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German
as 1st language.
In English vernacular its mox nix. :)

Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

On 8/8/22 12:52, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 8/7/2022 3:45 PM, gene heskett wrote: >> module example_el() >> { $fn=128; >>     cl=30; >>     cd=40; >>     el=.50; >>     scale([1+el,1-el,1]) >>     cylinder(h=cl,d=cd,center=true); >> } >> example_el(); >> >> [...] >> >> Are you telling me the above should not be called an ellipse? >> >> If that is the case, what is the proper name for it? > Certainly its footprint is an ellipse. > > But ellipses are 2D, and this is 3D.  Wikipedia seems to call it an > elliptic cylinder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cylinder#Elliptic_cylinder Ahh, but I was doing the cylinder as a base, then scaling it. Worked great at motor speeds up to around a thousand rpm. I suppose Wikipedia is probably correct, but to me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all well so that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German as 1st language. In English vernacular its mox nix. :) Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>
M
mikeonenine@web.de
Tue, Aug 9, 2022 1:26 AM

gene heskett wrote:

to
me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all
well so
that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German
as 1st language.
In English vernacular its mox nix. :)

Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

A mauchs niche - I’m intrigued!

Presumably a female mauch?

Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen?

gene heskett wrote: > > to > > me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all > > well so > > that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German > > as 1st language. > > In English vernacular its mox nix. :) > > Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well. > > ## Cheers, Gene Heskett. > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > \-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > > * Louis D. Brandeis > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> A mauchs niche - I’m intrigued! Presumably a female mauch? Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen?
GH
gene heskett
Tue, Aug 9, 2022 3:03 AM

On 8/8/22 21:30, mikeonenine@web.de wrote:

gene heskett wrote:

to
me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all
well so
that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German
as 1st language.
In English vernacular its mox nix. :)

Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

A mauchs niche - I’m intrigued!

Presumably a female mauch?

Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen?

IDK, but since you are from that neck of the woods, how do you spell it?


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Cheers, Gene Heskett.

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

On 8/8/22 21:30, mikeonenine@web.de wrote: > gene heskett wrote: > >>> to >>> me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all >>> well so >>> that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German >>> as 1st language. >>> In English vernacular its mox nix. :) >> Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well. >> >> ## Cheers, Gene Heskett. >> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >> \-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) >> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. >> >> * Louis D. Brandeis >> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> > A mauchs niche - I’m intrigued! > > Presumably a female mauch? > > Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen? > IDK, but since you are from that neck of the woods, how do you spell it? > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/>
T
terrypingm@gmail.com
Tue, Aug 9, 2022 5:54 AM

mox nix
An American spelling of the German expression "macht nichts" which means roughly, "it makes no difference."

--
Terry

On 9 Aug 2022, at 04:04, gene heskett gheskett@shentel.net wrote:

On 8/8/22 21:30, mikeonenine@web.de wrote:

gene heskett wrote:

to
me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all
well so
that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German
as 1st language.
In English vernacular its mox nix. :)

Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.

A mauchs niche - I’m intrigued!

Presumably a female mauch?

Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen?

IDK, but since you are from that neck of the woods, how do you spell it?


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If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.


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mox nix An American spelling of the German expression "macht nichts" which means roughly, "it makes no difference." -- Terry On 9 Aug 2022, at 04:04, gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote: On 8/8/22 21:30, mikeonenine@web.de wrote: > gene heskett wrote: > >>> to >>> me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at all >>> well so >>> that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German >>> as 1st language. >>> In English vernacular its mox nix. :) >> Thank you Jordan. Take care & stay well. >> >> ## Cheers, Gene Heskett. >> >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >> \-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) >> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. >> >> * Louis D. Brandeis >> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> > A mauchs niche - I’m intrigued! > > Presumably a female mauch? > > Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen? > IDK, but since you are from that neck of the woods, how do you spell it? > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
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Matthieu Hendriks
Tue, Aug 9, 2022 5:57 AM

I would say "No problem" :)

Groet Matthieu

terrypingm@gmail.com schreef op 2022-08-09 07:54:

MOX NIX [1]

An American spelling [2] of the German expression "macht [3] nichts"
which means roughly, "it makes no difference [4]."

-- Terry

On 9 Aug 2022, at 04:04, gene heskett gheskett@shentel.net wrote:

On 8/8/22 21:30, mikeonenine@web.de wrote:

gene heskett wrote:

to

me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at
all

well so

that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German

as 1st language.

In English vernacular its mox nix. :)

Thank you Jordan.  Take care & stay well.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.

"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:

soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."

-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
respectable.

  • Louis D. Brandeis

A mauchs niche - I'm intrigued!

Presumably a female mauch?

Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen?

IDK, but since you are from that neck of the woods, how do you spell
it?


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If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
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[3] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=macht
[4] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no%20difference

I would say "No problem" :) Groet Matthieu terrypingm@gmail.com schreef op 2022-08-09 07:54: > MOX NIX [1] > > * > * > > An American spelling [2] of the German expression "macht [3] nichts" > which means roughly, "it makes no difference [4]." > > -- Terry > > On 9 Aug 2022, at 04:04, gene heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> wrote: > > On 8/8/22 21:30, mikeonenine@web.de wrote: > >> gene heskett wrote: > to > me the 2d/3d difference was a mauchs niche. But I don't do German at > all > well so > that is quite likely miss-spelled. My apologies to those who do German > as 1st language. > In English vernacular its mox nix. :) >> Thank you Jordan. Take care & stay well. > >> ## Cheers, Gene Heskett. > >> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: >> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." >> \-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) >> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law >> respectable. > >> * Louis D. Brandeis >> Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> > A mauchs niche - I'm intrigued! > Presumably a female mauch? > Could be related to the dreaded gehuepftwiegesprungen? IDK, but since you are from that neck of the woods, how do you spell it? > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org Links: ------ [1] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mox+nix [2] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=American%20spelling [3] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=macht [4] https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no%20difference
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mikeonenine@web.de
Tue, Aug 9, 2022 8:52 PM

Or:

Doesn’t matter.

Also:

It’s much the same thing if you hop or jump.

What I’d like to hear, though, is the pronunciation!

Or: Doesn’t matter. Also: It’s much the same thing if you hop or jump. What I’d like to hear, though, is the pronunciation!