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Re: Merging sub-assemblies?

NH
nop head
Wed, May 12, 2021 3:10 PM

I gave it a try on my slowest NopSCADlib test, doing 3D rounding with 3
Minkowskis. It  failed to produce a result. I think it doesn't like close
vertices like OpenSCAD but worse.

On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 15:42, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those scripts
directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed STL files.

I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development.
Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a
color or use "%" is essential.  The lack of that feature in AngelCAD is
a show-stopper for me.  Carsten does not seem to feel that these
functions are as important to him as they are to me.

That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations.

Jon

On 5/12/2021 10:30 AM, Ray West wrote:

On 12/05/2021 00:20, adrianv wrote:

If you're going to use AngelCAD then....why not just use AngelCAD?

I have used AngelCAD, in fact I prefer the structure/language to
openscad scripting, however, the quick f5 rendering in openscad is
useful, and there is more activity here, on the openscad mailing list,
always someone/s can help when you get stuck. Unfortunately, there are
very few folk, at least that I know of, who have an active interest in
AngelCAD, which imnsho is a great pity. However, it is easy enough for
anyone using openscad to drop in the openscad script into AngelCAD and
quickly get an stl file - in a few seconds instead of many minutes, in
many cases.


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I gave it a try on my slowest NopSCADlib test, doing 3D rounding with 3 Minkowskis. It failed to produce a result. I think it doesn't like close vertices like OpenSCAD but worse. On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 15:42, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those scripts > directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed STL files. > > I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development. > Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a > color or use "%" is essential. The lack of that feature in AngelCAD is > a show-stopper for me. Carsten does not seem to feel that these > functions are as important to him as they are to me. > > That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations. > > Jon > > On 5/12/2021 10:30 AM, Ray West wrote: > > On 12/05/2021 00:20, adrianv wrote: > >> If you're going to use AngelCAD then....why not just use AngelCAD? > > > > I have used AngelCAD, in fact I prefer the structure/language to > > openscad scripting, however, the quick f5 rendering in openscad is > > useful, and there is more activity here, on the openscad mailing list, > > always someone/s can help when you get stuck. Unfortunately, there are > > very few folk, at least that I know of, who have an active interest in > > AngelCAD, which imnsho is a great pity. However, it is easy enough for > > anyone using openscad to drop in the openscad script into AngelCAD and > > quickly get an stl file - in a few seconds instead of many minutes, in > > many cases. > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenSCAD mailing list > > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >
J
jon
Wed, May 12, 2021 4:48 PM

Try adding this in the "args" box near the top:

sec_tol=0.001

Jon

On 5/12/2021 11:10 AM, nop head wrote:

I gave it a try on my slowest NopSCADlib test, doing 3D rounding with
3 Minkowskis. It  failed to produce a result. I think it doesn't like
close vertices like OpenSCAD but worse.

On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 15:42, jon <jon@jonbondy.com
mailto:jon@jonbondy.com> wrote:

 I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those
 scripts
 directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed
 STL files.

 I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development.
 Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a
 color or use "%" is essential.  The lack of that feature in
 AngelCAD is
 a show-stopper for me.  Carsten does not seem to feel that these
 functions are as important to him as they are to me.

 That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations.

 Jon

 On 5/12/2021 10:30 AM, Ray West wrote:

On 12/05/2021 00:20, adrianv wrote:

If you're going to use AngelCAD then....why not just use AngelCAD?

I have used AngelCAD, in fact I prefer the structure/language to
openscad scripting, however, the quick f5 rendering in openscad is
useful, and there is more activity here, on the openscad mailing

 list,

always someone/s can help when you get stuck. Unfortunately,

 there are

very few folk, at least that I know of, who have an active

 interest in

AngelCAD, which imnsho is a great pity. However, it is easy

 enough for

anyone using openscad to drop in the openscad script into

 AngelCAD and

quickly get an stl file - in a few seconds instead of many

 minutes, in

many cases.


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Try adding this in the "args" box near the top: sec_tol=0.001 Jon On 5/12/2021 11:10 AM, nop head wrote: > I gave it a try on my slowest NopSCADlib test, doing 3D rounding with > 3 Minkowskis. It  failed to produce a result. I think it doesn't like > close vertices like OpenSCAD but worse. > > On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 15:42, jon <jon@jonbondy.com > <mailto:jon@jonbondy.com>> wrote: > > I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those > scripts > directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed > STL files. > > I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development. > Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a > color or use "%" is essential.  The lack of that feature in > AngelCAD is > a show-stopper for me.  Carsten does not seem to feel that these > functions are as important to him as they are to me. > > That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations. > > Jon > > On 5/12/2021 10:30 AM, Ray West wrote: > > On 12/05/2021 00:20, adrianv wrote: > >> If you're going to use AngelCAD then....why not just use AngelCAD? > > > > I have used AngelCAD, in fact I prefer the structure/language to > > openscad scripting, however, the quick f5 rendering in openscad is > > useful, and there is more activity here, on the openscad mailing > list, > > always someone/s can help when you get stuck. Unfortunately, > there are > > very few folk, at least that I know of, who have an active > interest in > > AngelCAD, which imnsho is a great pity. However, it is easy > enough for > > anyone using openscad to drop in the openscad script into > AngelCAD and > > quickly get an stl file - in a few seconds instead of many > minutes, in > > many cases. > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenSCAD mailing list > > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > <mailto:discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > <mailto:discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
CA
Carsten Arnholm
Wed, May 12, 2021 5:53 PM

On 12.05.2021 01:20, adrianv wrote:

If you're going to use AngelCAD then....why not just use AngelCAD?

That is always an option, but if you are familiar with OpenSCAD syntax
and just want it to run faster, running .scad scripts in AngelCAD can
make sense.

Carsten Arnholm

On 12.05.2021 01:20, adrianv wrote: > If you're going to use AngelCAD then....why not just use AngelCAD? That is always an option, but if you are familiar with OpenSCAD syntax and just want it to run faster, running .scad scripts in AngelCAD can make sense. Carsten Arnholm
CA
Carsten Arnholm
Wed, May 12, 2021 6:25 PM

On 12.05.2021 16:42, jon wrote:

I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those scripts
directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed STL files.

I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development.
Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a
color or use "%" is essential.  The lack of that feature in AngelCAD is
a show-stopper for me.  Carsten does not seem to feel that these
functions are as important to him as they are to me.

That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations.

My thinking has been that OpenSCAD needs preview because full processing
is sometimes very slow, but in AngelCAD full processing is often close
to instantaneous, so the need for preview is much less.

Clearly the preview with colours and everything in OpenSCAD is very
nice, but it is a very different line of development than what has been
the main focus in AngelCAD, i.e.

a) Use a full blown language that runs, not just declares
b) Processing speed

If you want preview and you have an .scad model, you can use OpenSCAD
for that. If you have the same .scad script open in OpenSCAD and
AngelCAD, it should refresh in both editors automatically if saved to
disk. Press F5 in OpenSCAD for the  preview and when ready press F6 in
AngelCAD to generate the STL.

Carsten Arnholm

On 12.05.2021 16:42, jon wrote: > I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those scripts > directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed STL files. > > I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development. > Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a > color or use "%" is essential.  The lack of that feature in AngelCAD is > a show-stopper for me.  Carsten does not seem to feel that these > functions are as important to him as they are to me. > > That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations. My thinking has been that OpenSCAD needs preview because full processing is sometimes very slow, but in AngelCAD full processing is often close to instantaneous, so the need for preview is much less. Clearly the preview with colours and everything in OpenSCAD is very nice, but it is a very different line of development than what has been the main focus in AngelCAD, i.e. a) Use a full blown language that runs, not just declares b) Processing speed If you want preview and you have an .scad model, you can use OpenSCAD for that. If you have the same .scad script open in OpenSCAD and AngelCAD, it should refresh in both editors automatically if saved to disk. Press F5 in OpenSCAD for the preview and when ready press F6 in AngelCAD to generate the STL. Carsten Arnholm
NH
nop head
Wed, May 12, 2021 7:37 PM

My previews are not manifold, they just look the part, so they mostly give
errors in AngelCAD. And even ones that are manifold in OpenSCAD give errors
so I decided it wasn't at all compatible.

On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 19:25, Carsten Arnholm arnholm@arnholm.org wrote:

On 12.05.2021 16:42, jon wrote:

I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those scripts
directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed STL

files.

I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development.
Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a
color or use "%" is essential.  The lack of that feature in AngelCAD is
a show-stopper for me.  Carsten does not seem to feel that these
functions are as important to him as they are to me.

That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations.

My thinking has been that OpenSCAD needs preview because full processing
is sometimes very slow, but in AngelCAD full processing is often close
to instantaneous, so the need for preview is much less.

Clearly the preview with colours and everything in OpenSCAD is very
nice, but it is a very different line of development than what has been
the main focus in AngelCAD, i.e.

a) Use a full blown language that runs, not just declares
b) Processing speed

If you want preview and you have an .scad model, you can use OpenSCAD
for that. If you have the same .scad script open in OpenSCAD and
AngelCAD, it should refresh in both editors automatically if saved to
disk. Press F5 in OpenSCAD for the  preview and when ready press F6 in
AngelCAD to generate the STL.

Carsten Arnholm


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My previews are not manifold, they just look the part, so they mostly give errors in AngelCAD. And even ones that are manifold in OpenSCAD give errors so I decided it wasn't at all compatible. On Wed, 12 May 2021 at 19:25, Carsten Arnholm <arnholm@arnholm.org> wrote: > On 12.05.2021 16:42, jon wrote: > > I use AngelCAD to process OpenSCAD scripts when processing those scripts > > directly in OpenSCAD either takes too long or results in flawed STL > files. > > > > I find the F5 function in OpenSCAD to be crucial to my development. > > Being able to highlight a line in the code with a "#", or to change a > > color or use "%" is essential. The lack of that feature in AngelCAD is > > a show-stopper for me. Carsten does not seem to feel that these > > functions are as important to him as they are to me. > > > > That said, AngelCAD is a wonderful tool for some specific situations. > > My thinking has been that OpenSCAD needs preview because full processing > is sometimes very slow, but in AngelCAD full processing is often close > to instantaneous, so the need for preview is much less. > > Clearly the preview with colours and everything in OpenSCAD is very > nice, but it is a very different line of development than what has been > the main focus in AngelCAD, i.e. > > a) Use a full blown language that runs, not just declares > b) Processing speed > > If you want preview and you have an .scad model, you can use OpenSCAD > for that. If you have the same .scad script open in OpenSCAD and > AngelCAD, it should refresh in both editors automatically if saved to > disk. Press F5 in OpenSCAD for the preview and when ready press F6 in > AngelCAD to generate the STL. > > Carsten Arnholm > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >