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JB
Jordan Brown
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 12:44 AM

[ And I hate that Thunderbird changed its plugin API so that the plugin
that kept my e-mail addresses straight doesn't work any more. ]

On 12/7/2020 3:58 PM, MichaelAtOz wrote:

Along the same theme, right-click Tab could have Move-to-New-Window, which
performs equivalent to File/New-Window.

More conventional is to let you drag the tab off the tab bar, either to
another window or to free space to create a new window.

(But I still hate tabs and want Ctrl+N to give me a new window like it
used to...)

[ And I hate that Thunderbird changed its plugin API so that the plugin that kept my e-mail addresses straight doesn't work any more. ] On 12/7/2020 3:58 PM, MichaelAtOz wrote: > Along the same theme, right-click Tab could have Move-to-New-Window, which > performs equivalent to File/New-Window. More conventional is to let you drag the tab off the tab bar, either to another window or to free space to create a new window. (But I still hate tabs and want Ctrl+N to give me a new window like it used to...)
M
MichaelAtOz
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 1:52 AM

Whosawhatsis wrote

This may be part of this elusive middle-click menu, but I can't access it
using the trackpad on my
MacBook...

What is this myth you speak of??

Middle click does nothing# with OpenSCAD on Windows (2013.06 - 2020.11.30),
on Debian it only does paste in the Editor (I presume that is a Linux thing

  • I'm transitioning slowly...).

Correction, on Snapshot, middle-click on a Tab closes it, on empty space

on the Tab-bar it opens a new tab. I found that on a GitHub search of
'middle'.

Wiki* only says Shift-middle-drag -> zooms (it does), and middle-drag ->
zooms (it doesn't),
code says (issue #1438) 'Middle button pans in the xy plane' (it doesn't).

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manua/The_OpenSCAD_User_Interface#View_navigation


OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything,  or if I've done something stupid...

  • on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me.

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Whosawhatsis wrote > This may be part of this elusive middle-click menu, but I can't access it > using the trackpad on my > MacBook... What is this myth you speak of?? Middle click does nothing# with OpenSCAD on Windows (2013.06 - 2020.11.30), on Debian it only does paste in the Editor (I presume that is a Linux thing - I'm transitioning slowly...). # Correction, on Snapshot, middle-click on a Tab closes it, on empty space on the Tab-bar it opens a new tab. I found that on a GitHub search of 'middle'. Wiki* only says Shift-middle-drag -> zooms (it does), and middle-drag -> zooms (it doesn't), code says (issue #1438) 'Middle button pans in the xy plane' (it doesn't). * https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manua/The_OpenSCAD_User_Interface#View_navigation ----- OpenSCAD Admin - email* me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... * on the Forum, click on my MichaelAtOz label, there is a link to email me. Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/
JB
Jordan Brown
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 2:08 AM

On 12/7/2020 5:52 PM, MichaelAtOz wrote:

Wiki* only says Shift-middle-drag -> zooms (it does), and middle-drag
-> zooms (it doesn't),

Middle drag zoom works for me (2019.01, 2019.12).  Appears to zoom
around the center of the window, vs wheel zoom which zooms around the
cursor.

Not that I use middle drag zoom.  I always use wheel zoom.

Note that it only zooms when you middle-drag up and down, not left and
right.

On 12/7/2020 5:52 PM, MichaelAtOz wrote: > Wiki* only says Shift-middle-drag -> zooms (it does), and middle-drag > -> zooms (it doesn't), Middle drag zoom works for me (2019.01, 2019.12).  Appears to zoom around the center of the window, vs wheel zoom which zooms around the cursor. Not that I *use* middle drag zoom.  I always use wheel zoom. Note that it only zooms when you middle-drag up and down, not left and right.
J
jon
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 2:17 AM

Middle drag does nothing for me under Windows with the latest snapshot. 
Puzzling

On 12/7/2020 9:08 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:

On 12/7/2020 5:52 PM, MichaelAtOz wrote:

Wiki* only says Shift-middle-drag -> zooms (it does), and middle-drag
-> zooms (it doesn't),

Middle drag zoom works for me (2019.01, 2019.12).  Appears to zoom
around the center of the window, vs wheel zoom which zooms around the
cursor.

Not that I use middle drag zoom.  I always use wheel zoom.

Note that it only zooms when you middle-drag up and down, not left and
right.


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Middle drag does nothing for me under Windows with the latest snapshot.  Puzzling On 12/7/2020 9:08 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 12/7/2020 5:52 PM, MichaelAtOz wrote: >> Wiki* only says Shift-middle-drag -> zooms (it does), and middle-drag >> -> zooms (it doesn't), > > Middle drag zoom works for me (2019.01, 2019.12).  Appears to zoom > around the center of the window, vs wheel zoom which zooms around the > cursor. > > Not that I *use* middle drag zoom.  I always use wheel zoom. > > Note that it only zooms when you middle-drag up and down, not left and > right. > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org
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jon
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 2:21 AM

Dragging with the left mouse (orbit) works MUCH worse with the snapshot
than with the latest (2019) release.  With 2019, I can orbit easily, and
the object is always visible; with the snapshot, the object is rarely
visible at all.  This behavior is close to intolerable.

Jon

Dragging with the left mouse (orbit) works MUCH worse with the snapshot than with the latest (2019) release.  With 2019, I can orbit easily, and the object is always visible; with the snapshot, the object is rarely visible at all.  This behavior is close to intolerable. Jon
HL
Hans L
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 8:49 AM

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:29 PM jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

Dragging with the left mouse (orbit) works MUCH worse with the snapshot
than with the latest (2019) release.  With 2019, I can orbit easily, and
the object is always visible; with the snapshot, the object is rarely
visible at all.  This behavior is close to intolerable.

Jon

No idea what  you're talking about to be honest.  As far as I know there
has not been any significant change to orbit since 2019.05.

  • If you pan before orbiting then the orbit will be around the new camera
    center.  That's been the case for a long time.
  • If you have mouse-centric zoom enabled, then zooming with mousewheel
    will also introduce some amount of pan in order to keep the cursor pointing
    down the same ray in space (unless your mouse happens to be perfectly
    centered in the view).  If that's your problem then you can disable it in
    options.  But again that feature should have already existed in 2019.05.
  • View -> Show Crosshairs (Ctrl-3) depicts this center of rotation with
    some diagonal axes, which might help visualize what's going on.

If your problem is something unrelated to those, then you're going to have
to explain "the object is rarely visible" a bit better.

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:29 PM jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > Dragging with the left mouse (orbit) works MUCH worse with the snapshot > than with the latest (2019) release. With 2019, I can orbit easily, and > the object is always visible; with the snapshot, the object is rarely > visible at all. This behavior is close to intolerable. > > Jon > No idea what you're talking about to be honest. As far as I know there has not been any significant change to orbit since 2019.05. - If you pan before orbiting then the orbit will be around the new camera center. That's been the case for a long time. - If you have mouse-centric zoom enabled, then zooming with mousewheel will also introduce some amount of pan in order to keep the cursor pointing down the same ray in space (unless your mouse happens to be perfectly centered in the view). If that's your problem then you can disable it in options. But again that feature should have already existed in 2019.05. - View -> Show Crosshairs (Ctrl-3) depicts this center of rotation with some diagonal axes, which might help visualize what's going on. If your problem is something unrelated to those, then you're going to have to explain "the object is rarely visible" a bit better.
J
jon
Tue, Dec 8, 2020 11:39 AM

You are correct.  If I carefully use both releases in exactly the same
way, they behave the same.

I have no idea what I did to get the new release to behave as it did.

But there is no bug here

Jon

On 12/8/2020 3:49 AM, Hans L wrote:

On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:29 PM jon <jon@jonbondy.com
mailto:jon@jonbondy.com> wrote:

 Dragging with the left mouse (orbit) works MUCH worse with the
 snapshot
 than with the latest (2019) release.  With 2019, I can orbit
 easily, and
 the object is always visible; with the snapshot, the object is rarely
 visible at all.  This behavior is close to intolerable.

 Jon

No idea what  you're talking about to be honest.  As far as I know
there has not been any significant change to orbit since 2019.05.

 - If you pan before orbiting then the orbit will be around the new
camera center.  That's been the case for a long time.
 - If you have mouse-centric zoom enabled, then zooming with
mousewheel will also introduce some amount of pan in order to keep the
cursor pointing down the same ray in space (unless your mouse happens
to be perfectly centered in the view).  If that's your problem then
you can disable it in options.  But again that feature should have
already existed in 2019.05.
 - View -> Show Crosshairs (Ctrl-3) depicts this center of rotation
with some diagonal axes, which might help visualize what's going on.

If your problem is something unrelated to those, then you're going to
have to explain "the object is rarely visible" a bit better.

You are correct.  If I carefully use both releases in exactly the same way, they behave the same. I have no idea what I did to get the new release to behave as it did. But there is no bug here Jon On 12/8/2020 3:49 AM, Hans L wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:29 PM jon <jon@jonbondy.com > <mailto:jon@jonbondy.com>> wrote: > > Dragging with the left mouse (orbit) works MUCH worse with the > snapshot > than with the latest (2019) release.  With 2019, I can orbit > easily, and > the object is always visible; with the snapshot, the object is rarely > visible at all.  This behavior is close to intolerable. > > Jon > > > No idea what  you're talking about to be honest.  As far as I know > there has not been any significant change to orbit since 2019.05. > >  - If you pan before orbiting then the orbit will be around the new > camera center.  That's been the case for a long time. >  - If you have mouse-centric zoom enabled, then zooming with > mousewheel will also introduce some amount of pan in order to keep the > cursor pointing down the same ray in space (unless your mouse happens > to be perfectly centered in the view).  If that's your problem then > you can disable it in options.  But again that feature should have > already existed in 2019.05. >  - View -> Show Crosshairs (Ctrl-3) depicts this center of rotation > with some diagonal axes, which might help visualize what's going on. > > If your problem is something unrelated to those, then you're going to > have to explain "the object is rarely visible" a bit better. >