When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
F5, F6 and F7 do preview, render and export but I think F7 is STL only.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 17:44, Todd Allen via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
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I had a similar issue recently, but the symptom was memory consumption, not
CPU. The solution was code optimization. The pre-optimization code was
the union of ten intersections, post-optimization was an intersection of 10
unions. The common shape to the intersections was a cone, so there were a
lot of edges being created in the intersection command.
Dan
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 5:43 PM Todd Allen via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
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I don't think this is an issue of inefficient code as my models render
fine, typically only a second or two at worst at much higher resolution
then when I preview which brings my system to it's knees and keeps it
stalled out until I clear the viewport or do a render.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 2:25 PM Dan Perry via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
I had a similar issue recently, but the symptom was memory consumption,
not CPU. The solution was code optimization. The pre-optimization code
was the union of ten intersections, post-optimization was an intersection
of 10 unions. The common shape to the intersections was a cone, so there
were a lot of edges being created in the intersection command.
Dan
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 5:43 PM Todd Allen via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
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I use the render key but the other two are no longer of much use. If I can
I'll rewrite the <export STL> key to do a render with $export=true which I
can test in script to go higher res and then export an OBJ.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 11:57 AM nop head via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
F5, F6 and F7 do preview, render and export but I think F7 is STL only.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 17:44, Todd Allen via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
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Can you share a picture of your model?
On Mon, 5 Aug, 2024, 2:20 am Todd Allen via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
I use the render key but the other two are no longer of much use. If I
can I'll rewrite the <export STL> key to do a render with $export=true
which I can test in script to go higher res and then export an OBJ.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 11:57 AM nop head via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
F5, F6 and F7 do preview, render and export but I think F7 is STL only.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 17:44, Todd Allen via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
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What is the openscad version, as well as OS and hardware spec? Nightly
version is using a different preview pipeline. And this somehow makes me
wonder if you are using software rendering instead of GPU rendering.
On 5/8/2024 07:05, Sanjeev Prabhakar via Discuss wrote:
Can you share a picture of your model?
On Mon, 5 Aug, 2024, 2:20 am Todd Allen via Discuss,
discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
I use the render key but the other two are no longer of much use.
If I can I'll rewrite the <export STL> key to do a render with
$export=true which I can test in script to go higher res and then
export an OBJ.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 11:57 AM nop head via Discuss
<discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
F5, F6 and F7 do preview, render and export but I think F7 is
STL only.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 17:44, Todd Allen via Discuss
<discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned
off automatic preview and just use rendering because
previewing overheats my CPU and makes it nearly impossible
to adjust the viewport as much of the interface becomes
so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking
advantage of the $preview variable to set the other
resolution adjusting vars such as $fs to minimize
resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to
only have high res for renders before exporting. What I'd
really love to have is a way to do single keystrokes for a
preview render, a full render and an export render (as an
obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in
case I am missing something and other solutions are possible.
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Ryzen 9 6900HX w/ AMD Radeon 680M graphics, 32 GB ram
OS is a fully updated Arch linux virtual machine running under Qubes OS 4.2
with pvh virtualization and seamless integration enabled.
I get the same behavior with both a week old unstable release and the last
stable release 2024.01.06 of OpenSCAD, both are .appimage files.
I think the issue may be a graphics driver as the problem got much worse
after switching from a 1080p monitor to a 2560x1440 monitor.
I have a Windows VM which I rarely use to run Fusion360 which is a much
more graphically demanding app and it runs well. I should try OpenSCAD
there to help isolate if the problem is with the linux graphics driver.
Curiously though when I render the video is smooth and fairly responsive
under linux and it is only when looking at a preview the system chokes.
Here's a sample script which causes this:
include <BOSL2/std.scad>
include <BOSL2/rounding.scad>
$fn= $preview ? 32 : 256;
eps = 0.002;
module setenv_RodFrame(rod_d=10, wall_t=2.5, corner_size=26, chamfer=0.5,
inner_chamfer, outer_chamfer) {
$rod_d = rod_d;
$wall_t = wall_t;
$corner_size = corner_size;
$inner_chamfer = is_undef(inner_chamfer) ? chamfer : inner_chamfer;
$outer_chamfer = is_undef(outer_chamfer) ? chamfer : outer_chamfer;
$pipe_d = $rod_d+2*$wall_t;
$flange_t = $wall_t;
$flange_fillet = 1.25*$wall_t;
$corner_cut = $rod_d0.5+$wall_t0.8;
children();
}
module leg(h, d, cb, ct) {
joined_shape = rect([h-$flange_fillet0.6,$flange_t]);
union() {
zcyl(h=h, d=d, chamfer1=cb, chamfer2=ct, circum=true);
for(a = [-45,-135]) zrot(a) right($pipe_d0.5) yrot(90)
down($pipe_d0.5) join_prism(joined_shape,base="cylinder",base_d=$pipe_d,
length=h0.6, fillet=$flange_fillet, n=24);
}
}
module leg_core(h, d, cb, ct) {
down(eps) zcyl(h=h+10*eps, d=d, chamfer1=cb, chamfer2=ct, circum=true);
}
module corner() {
ang = acos(1/sqrt(3));
h = $corner_size-$corner_cut;
top_half(s=200) up(h1.04) {
difference() {
zrot_copies(n=3) xrot(ang) down(h0.5+$corner_cut) leg(h,
$pipe_d, $outer_chamfer, $inner_chamfer);
zrot_copies(n=3) xrot(ang) down(h*0.5+$corner_cut) leg_core(h,
$rod_d, -$outer_chamfer,0);
// trim bottom outer edge of flange
// figuring out a formula too hard for now so if parameters
change this will need tweaking, probably make these values enviroment vars
zrot_copies(n=3) fwd(14) down(h) xrot(45)
cuboid([26,3,7],anchor=BACK);
}
}
}
// EXAMPLE invocation
setenv_RodFrame() corner();
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:07 PM Chun Kit LAM via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
What is the openscad version, as well as OS and hardware spec? Nightly
version is using a different preview pipeline. And this somehow makes me
wonder if you are using software rendering instead of GPU rendering.
On 5/8/2024 07:05, Sanjeev Prabhakar via Discuss wrote:
Can you share a picture of your model?
On Mon, 5 Aug, 2024, 2:20 am Todd Allen via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
I use the render key but the other two are no longer of much use. If I
can I'll rewrite the <export STL> key to do a render with $export=true
which I can test in script to go higher res and then export an OBJ.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 11:57 AM nop head via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
F5, F6 and F7 do preview, render and export but I think F7 is STL only.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 17:44, Todd Allen via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
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Do you have GPU passthrough for your VM? When running under
virtualization, it may run under software rendering. And I doubt if
Fusion360 is much more graphically demanding, openscad preview render is
kind of like unoptimized ray-tracing (from my understanding) which is
quite heavy even for good GPUs, and it will definitely stress your CPU
when run under software rendering.
On 5/8/2024 10:43, Todd Allen wrote:
Ryzen 9 6900HX w/ AMD Radeon 680M graphics, 32 GB ram
OS is a fully updated Arch linux virtual machine running under Qubes
OS 4.2 with pvh virtualization and seamless integration enabled.
I get the same behavior with both a week old unstable release and the
last stable release 2024.01.06 of OpenSCAD, both are .appimage files.
I think the issue may be a graphics driver as the problem got much
worse after switching from a 1080p monitor to a 2560x1440 monitor.
I have a Windows VM which I rarely use to run Fusion360 which is a
much more graphically demanding app and it runs well. I should try
OpenSCAD there to help isolate if the problem is with the linux
graphics driver. Curiously though when I render the video is smooth
and fairly responsive under linux and it is only when looking at a
preview the system chokes.
Here's a sample script which causes this:
include <BOSL2/std.scad>
include <BOSL2/rounding.scad>
$fn= $preview ? 32 : 256;
eps = 0.002;
module setenv_RodFrame(rod_d=10, wall_t=2.5, corner_size=26,
chamfer=0.5, inner_chamfer, outer_chamfer) {
$rod_d = rod_d;
$wall_t = wall_t;
$corner_size = corner_size;
$inner_chamfer = is_undef(inner_chamfer) ? chamfer : inner_chamfer;
$outer_chamfer = is_undef(outer_chamfer) ? chamfer : outer_chamfer;
$pipe_d = $rod_d+2*$wall_t;
$flange_t = $wall_t;
$flange_fillet = 1.25*$wall_t;
$corner_cut = $rod_d0.5+$wall_t0.8;
children();
}
module leg(h, d, cb, ct) {
joined_shape = rect([h-$flange_fillet0.6,$flange_t]);
union() {
zcyl(h=h, d=d, chamfer1=cb, chamfer2=ct, circum=true);
for(a = [-45,-135]) zrot(a) right($pipe_d0.5) yrot(90)
down($pipe_d0.5)
join_prism(joined_shape,base="cylinder",base_d=$pipe_d, length=h0.6,
fillet=$flange_fillet, n=24);
}
}
module leg_core(h, d, cb, ct) {
down(eps) zcyl(h=h+10*eps, d=d, chamfer1=cb, chamfer2=ct,
circum=true);
}
module corner() {
ang = acos(1/sqrt(3));
h = $corner_size-$corner_cut;
top_half(s=200) up(h1.04) {
difference() {
zrot_copies(n=3) xrot(ang) down(h0.5+$corner_cut) leg(h,
$pipe_d, $outer_chamfer, $inner_chamfer);
zrot_copies(n=3) xrot(ang) down(h*0.5+$corner_cut)
leg_core(h, $rod_d, -$outer_chamfer,0);
// trim bottom outer edge of flange
// figuring out a formula too hard for now so if
parameters change this will need tweaking, probably make these values
enviroment vars
zrot_copies(n=3) fwd(14) down(h) xrot(45)
cuboid([26,3,7],anchor=BACK);
}
}
}
// EXAMPLE invocation
setenv_RodFrame() corner();
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:07 PM Chun Kit LAM via Discuss
discuss@lists.openscad.org wrote:
What is the openscad version, as well as OS and hardware spec?
Nightly version is using a different preview pipeline. And this
somehow makes me wonder if you are using software rendering
instead of GPU rendering.
On 5/8/2024 07:05, Sanjeev Prabhakar via Discuss wrote:
Can you share a picture of your model?
On Mon, 5 Aug, 2024, 2:20 am Todd Allen via Discuss,
<discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
I use the render key but the other two are no longer of much
use. If I can I'll rewrite the <export STL> key to do a
render with $export=true which I can test in script to go
higher res and then export an OBJ.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 11:57 AM nop head via Discuss
<discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
F5, F6 and F7 do preview, render and export but I think
F7 is STL only.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 17:44, Todd Allen via Discuss
<discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've
turned off automatic preview and just use rendering
because previewing overheats my CPU and makes it
nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much
of the interface becomes so sluggish it is
practically frozen. I had been taking advantage of
the $preview variable to set the other resolution
adjusting vars such as $fs to minimize resolution for
previewing and have a high resolution for rendering.
But now I have been manually changing vars to only
have high res for renders before exporting. What I'd
really love to have is a way to do single keystrokes
for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will
have to build my own from source to achieve this but
thought I would ask in case I am missing something
and other solutions are possible.
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Yes, just checked it is doing software graphics. It is possible to use GPU
graphics but it looks like I have a few hoops to jump through. Why is
displaying a preview so much more demanding than displaying a render?
Anyway for now I'll see if I can get by just making previews very coarse
grained.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 10:06 PM Chun Kit LAM john.lck40@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have GPU passthrough for your VM? When running under
virtualization, it may run under software rendering. And I doubt if
Fusion360 is much more graphically demanding, openscad preview render is
kind of like unoptimized ray-tracing (from my understanding) which is quite
heavy even for good GPUs, and it will definitely stress your CPU when run
under software rendering.
On 5/8/2024 10:43, Todd Allen wrote:
Ryzen 9 6900HX w/ AMD Radeon 680M graphics, 32 GB ram
OS is a fully updated Arch linux virtual machine running under Qubes OS
4.2 with pvh virtualization and seamless integration enabled.
I get the same behavior with both a week old unstable release and the last
stable release 2024.01.06 of OpenSCAD, both are .appimage files.
I think the issue may be a graphics driver as the problem got much worse
after switching from a 1080p monitor to a 2560x1440 monitor.
I have a Windows VM which I rarely use to run Fusion360 which is a much
more graphically demanding app and it runs well. I should try OpenSCAD
there to help isolate if the problem is with the linux graphics driver.
Curiously though when I render the video is smooth and fairly responsive
under linux and it is only when looking at a preview the system chokes.
Here's a sample script which causes this:
include <BOSL2/std.scad>
include <BOSL2/rounding.scad>
$fn= $preview ? 32 : 256;
eps = 0.002;
module setenv_RodFrame(rod_d=10, wall_t=2.5, corner_size=26, chamfer=0.5,
inner_chamfer, outer_chamfer) {
$rod_d = rod_d;
$wall_t = wall_t;
$corner_size = corner_size;
$inner_chamfer = is_undef(inner_chamfer) ? chamfer : inner_chamfer;
$outer_chamfer = is_undef(outer_chamfer) ? chamfer : outer_chamfer;
$pipe_d = $rod_d+2*$wall_t;
$flange_t = $wall_t;
$flange_fillet = 1.25*$wall_t;
$corner_cut = $rod_d0.5+$wall_t0.8;
children();
}
module leg(h, d, cb, ct) {
joined_shape = rect([h-$flange_fillet0.6,$flange_t]);
union() {
zcyl(h=h, d=d, chamfer1=cb, chamfer2=ct, circum=true);
for(a = [-45,-135]) zrot(a) right($pipe_d0.5) yrot(90)
down($pipe_d0.5) join_prism(joined_shape,base="cylinder",base_d=$pipe_d,
length=h0.6, fillet=$flange_fillet, n=24);
}
}
module leg_core(h, d, cb, ct) {
down(eps) zcyl(h=h+10*eps, d=d, chamfer1=cb, chamfer2=ct, circum=true);
}
module corner() {
ang = acos(1/sqrt(3));
h = $corner_size-$corner_cut;
top_half(s=200) up(h1.04) {
difference() {
zrot_copies(n=3) xrot(ang) down(h0.5+$corner_cut) leg(h,
$pipe_d, $outer_chamfer, $inner_chamfer);
zrot_copies(n=3) xrot(ang) down(h*0.5+$corner_cut) leg_core(h,
$rod_d, -$outer_chamfer,0);
// trim bottom outer edge of flange
// figuring out a formula too hard for now so if parameters
change this will need tweaking, probably make these values enviroment vars
zrot_copies(n=3) fwd(14) down(h) xrot(45)
cuboid([26,3,7],anchor=BACK);
}
}
}
// EXAMPLE invocation
setenv_RodFrame() corner();
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:07 PM Chun Kit LAM via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
What is the openscad version, as well as OS and hardware spec? Nightly
version is using a different preview pipeline. And this somehow makes me
wonder if you are using software rendering instead of GPU rendering.
On 5/8/2024 07:05, Sanjeev Prabhakar via Discuss wrote:
Can you share a picture of your model?
On Mon, 5 Aug, 2024, 2:20 am Todd Allen via Discuss, <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
I use the render key but the other two are no longer of much use. If I
can I'll rewrite the <export STL> key to do a render with $export=true
which I can test in script to go higher res and then export an OBJ.
On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 11:57 AM nop head via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
F5, F6 and F7 do preview, render and export but I think F7 is STL only.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2024 at 17:44, Todd Allen via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:
When working with complex high facet models I've turned off automatic
preview and just use rendering because previewing overheats my CPU and
makes it nearly impossible to adjust the viewport as much of the interface
becomes so sluggish it is practically frozen. I had been taking advantage
of the $preview variable to set the other resolution adjusting vars such as
$fs to minimize resolution for previewing and have a high resolution for
rendering. But now I have been manually changing vars to only have high
res for renders before exporting. What I'd really love to have is a way to
do single keystrokes for a preview render, a full render and an export
render (as an obj and not an stl). I expect I will have to build my own
from source to achieve this but thought I would ask in case I am missing
something and other solutions are possible.
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