lost work
Using rotate and a for loop I now have something
that may work, except the blue text has said 999/1000 now for a good 30
minutes. It finally got done but did not report the elapsed time. I made
a couple changes that should have sped it up, but didn't.
With $fn=360 it will take a very long time.
This will also impact 3D printing as it will do lots of tiny lines (equiv. to a point)
instead of longer lines on the curve.
That could be contributing to the retracts.
I'd expect the cylinder() segment size <0.01mm, you don't need that detail.
When you mix 2D & 3D there is a warning.
I think you should make your console panel a bit taller, you may miss warnings which scroll off.
Is there a give up and show what it has timer?
There is a cancel button:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_Interface#Console_window
But it does not show what it has, because it doesn't have anything until it's done.
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On 8/13/2021 5:22 PM, MichaelAtOz wrote:
When you mix 2D & 3D there is a warning.
I think you should make your console panel a bit taller, you may miss
warnings which scroll off.
Setting the "stop on first warning" option is probably a good idea.
There is a cancel button:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_Interface#Console_window
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_Interface#Console_window
But it does not show what it has, because it doesn't have anything
until it's done.
And note that it can only interrupt between CGAL operations, and the
final CGAL operation tends to be what takes most of the time.
you've got a mix of 2d and 3d objects, afaik. both will show on f5, but
not in f6. There is a warning message.
On 13/08/2021 19:46, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Friday 13 August 2021 14:26:20 Michael Möller wrote:
You're using 2D shapes circle/square ? they fake render in F5, but
without a extrude they do not appear in 3D / F6.
etc.......
Cheers, Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 August 2021 20:22:42 MichaelAtOz wrote:
Using rotate and a for loop I now have something
that may work, except the blue text has said 999/1000 now for a good
30
minutes. It finally got done but did not report the elapsed time. I
made
a couple changes that should have sped it up, but didn't.
With $fn=360 it will take a very long time.
This will also impact 3D printing as it will do lots of tiny lines
(equiv. to a point)
instead of longer lines on the curve.
That could be contributing to the retracts.
I'd expect the cylinder() segment size <0.01mm, you don't need that
detail.
When you mix 2D & 3D there is a warning.
I think you should make your console panel a bit taller, you may miss
warnings which scroll off.
Is there a give up and show what it has timer?
There is a cancel button:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_I
nterface#Console_window
I've wondered what that teeny red button was, now I know. For a wee
while. Thanks.
But it does not show what it has, because it doesn't have anything
until it's done.
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Just be aware, as noted above, that there are times when your computer will
appear to be locked and the cancel button won't do anything.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:08 PM Gene Heskett gheskett@shentel.net wrote:
On Friday 13 August 2021 20:22:42 MichaelAtOz wrote:
Using rotate and a for loop I now have something
that may work, except the blue text has said 999/1000 now for a good
30
minutes. It finally got done but did not report the elapsed time. I
made
a couple changes that should have sped it up, but didn't.
With $fn=360 it will take a very long time.
This will also impact 3D printing as it will do lots of tiny lines
(equiv. to a point)
instead of longer lines on the curve.
That could be contributing to the retracts.
I'd expect the cylinder() segment size <0.01mm, you don't need that
detail.
When you mix 2D & 3D there is a warning.
I think you should make your console panel a bit taller, you may miss
warnings which scroll off.
Is there a give up and show what it has timer?
There is a cancel button:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_I
nterface#Console_window
I've wondered what that teeny red button was, now I know. For a wee
while. Thanks.
But it does not show what it has, because it doesn't have anything
until it's done.
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there are times when your computer will appear to be locked and the cancel button won't do anything
Indeed, both when CGAL is going its final CSG step (often showing as 999/1000 but not always).
But also if it starts swapping. $fn=360 will also increase memory use.
With big buffer settings in OpenSCAD preferences, usage can get to many GBs.
So have a system monitor up to see whether you are swapping.
During testing with complex models, I've had Debian lockup, where mouse stopped and VLC stopped playing for minutes at a time due to swapping.
Even using fast NVMe SSDs.
From: Father Horton [mailto:fatherhorton@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 13:22
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: lost work
Just be aware, as noted above, that there are times when your computer will appear to be locked and the cancel button won't do anything.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:08 PM Gene Heskett gheskett@shentel.net wrote:
On Friday 13 August 2021 20:22:42 MichaelAtOz wrote:
Using rotate and a for loop I now have something
that may work, except the blue text has said 999/1000 now for a good
30
minutes. It finally got done but did not report the elapsed time. I
made
a couple changes that should have sped it up, but didn't.
With $fn=360 it will take a very long time.
This will also impact 3D printing as it will do lots of tiny lines
(equiv. to a point)
instead of longer lines on the curve.
That could be contributing to the retracts.
I'd expect the cylinder() segment size <0.01mm, you don't need that
detail.
When you mix 2D & 3D there is a warning.
I think you should make your console panel a bit taller, you may miss
warnings which scroll off.
Is there a give up and show what it has timer?
There is a cancel button:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User_I
nterface#Console_window
I've wondered what that teeny red button was, now I know. For a wee
while. Thanks.
But it does not show what it has, because it doesn't have anything
until it's done.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Heskett [mailto:gheskett@shentel.net]
Sent: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 06:45
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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On Friday 13 August 2021 23:38:48 MichaelAtOz wrote:
there are times when your computer will appear to be locked and the
cancel button won't do anything
Indeed, both when CGAL is going its final CSG step (often showing as
999/1000 but not always).
But also if it starts swapping. $fn=360 will also increase memory use.
With big buffer settings in OpenSCAD preferences, usage can get to
many GBs.
I'm currantly set for 1.5G in each buffer, but I can, and just did,
double that as I see htop says its 500M into 50G of swap right now, so
obviously its swapping to beat the band. I'll assume its isolated so it
should be able to handle 2, 3GB buffers. It has 16GB of ram. And $fn was
set to 360, render time 11 minutes, 180 was about 5:30, and 90 a bit
under 3, but I can see the bare beginnings of faceting in the bearing
races, so thats quitting time. They need to be as smooth as the printer
can do them. I had to print another output cup/bearing, and the over
flow welded that bearing and I had to trace cut it loose with a box
knife after I had flexed it quite a bit stuffing the bb's into it. New
output sprocket printed, installed and glued in, I'll put the output
belt back on it tomorrow after the superglue has cured and make a holder
for a belt tensioner idler, and that will be done. Ready to be hooked up
on that milling machine and calibrated, about 50x more accurate, and 50x
more holding torque than it had when I disconnected it about 6 months
ago to do this. Since it has a "home" switch, its self calibrating with
a bit of hal trickery. I'll log the encoder count as the 3rd closing of
the home switch, run it 100 nore full turns and log the encoder again,
subtract the first from the 2nd, /100 that and that becomes the
calibration scale. From that I can tell it to move to 44.01 degrees and
it will be at 44.01 degrees. I can even move it while a 1/8" carbide
tool doing 24k rpms and is carving away on whatever is in the chuck,
I've made drill bits on a similar one on another machine.
So this project is nearly done. And, as an ex bro-in-law used to say,
good enough for the girls I go with. :)
So have a system monitor up to see whether you are swapping.
htop said 473M in swap. Ouch.
Thanks all, till next time I'm in over my head.
During testing with complex models, I've had Debian lockup, where
mouse stopped and VLC stopped playing for minutes at a time due to
swapping.
Even using fast NVMe SSDs.
From: Father Horton [mailto:fatherhorton@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 13:22
To: OpenSCAD general discussion
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: lost work
Just be aware, as noted above, that there are times when your computer
will appear to be locked and the cancel button won't do anything.
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:08 PM Gene Heskett gheskett@shentel.net
wrote:
On Friday 13 August 2021 20:22:42 MichaelAtOz wrote:
Using rotate and a for loop I now have something
that may work, except the blue text has said 999/1000 now for a good
30
minutes. It finally got done but did not report the elapsed time. I
made
a couple changes that should have sped it up, but didn't.
With $fn=360 it will take a very long time.
This will also impact 3D printing as it will do lots of tiny lines
(equiv. to a point)
instead of longer lines on the curve.
That could be contributing to the retracts.
I'd expect the cylinder() segment size <0.01mm, you don't need that
detail.
When you mix 2D & 3D there is a warning.
I think you should make your console panel a bit taller, you may
miss warnings which scroll off.
Is there a give up and show what it has timer?
There is a cancel button:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_User
_I nterface#Console_window
I've wondered what that teeny red button was, now I know. For a wee
while. Thanks.
But it does not show what it has, because it doesn't have anything
until it's done.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Heskett [mailto:gheskett@shentel.net]
Sent: Sat, 14 Aug 2021 06:45
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: lost work
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
- Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene