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JB
Jon Bondy
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 1:41 PM

I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks like this:

It is basically useless.  Where is the font size hidden, please?
Exploring is very difficult at the moment.

Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit?

Jon

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I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks like this: It is basically useless.  Where is the font size hidden, please? Exploring is very difficult at the moment. Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit? Jon -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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jon jonbondy.com
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 1:55 PM

I found the <ctrl>-- (control minus) for the editor font, but the menu font, console font, and error log font are still wrong.  Are these things stored in a text file that I can edit?

Jon

On 9/22/2024 9:41 AM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:

I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks like this:

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It is basically useless.  Where is the font size hidden, please?  Exploring is very difficult at the moment.

Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit?

Jon

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I found the <ctrl>-- (control minus) for the editor font, but the menu font, console font, and error log font are still wrong. Are these things stored in a text file that I can edit? Jon On 9/22/2024 9:41 AM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote: I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks like this: [cid:part1.vOtnyCBi.vYorwIZO@jonbondy.com] It is basically useless. Where is the font size hidden, please? Exploring is very difficult at the moment. Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit? Jon [https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free.www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> _______________________________________________ OpenSCAD mailing list To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org<mailto:discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org>
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Raymond West
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 3:48 PM

depending on what version of openscad,   Edit - preferences then either
editor and/or advanced.

On 22/09/2024 14:55, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote:

I found the <ctrl>-- (control minus) for the editor font, but the menu
font, console font, and error log font are still wrong.  Are these
things stored in a text file that I can edit?

Jon

On 9/22/2024 9:41 AM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:

I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks
like this:

It is basically useless.  Where is the font size hidden, please? 
Exploring is very difficult at the moment.

Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit?

Jon

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depending on what version of openscad,   Edit - preferences then either editor and/or advanced. On 22/09/2024 14:55, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote: > > I found the <ctrl>-- (control minus) for the editor font, but the menu > font, console font, and error log font are still wrong.  Are these > things stored in a text file that I can edit? > > Jon > > > On 9/22/2024 9:41 AM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote: >> >> I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks >> like this: >> >> It is basically useless.  Where is the font size hidden, please?  >> Exploring is very difficult at the moment. >> >> Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit? >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> Virus-free.www.avg.com >> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
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Jon Bondy
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 3:58 PM

Thanks, but no. The thing is so horribly broken it is very difficult to
see what is going on at all.  I cannot find separate fonts for the
various functions, but they do appear in different sizes.

On 9/22/2024 11:48 AM, Raymond West via Discuss wrote:

depending on what version of openscad,   Edit - preferences then
either editor and/or advanced.

On 22/09/2024 14:55, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote:

I found the <ctrl>-- (control minus) for the editor font, but the
menu font, console font, and error log font are still wrong.  Are
these things stored in a text file that I can edit?

Jon

On 9/22/2024 9:41 AM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:

I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks
like this:

It is basically useless.  Where is the font size hidden, please? 
Exploring is very difficult at the moment.

Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit?

Jon

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Thanks, but no. The thing is so horribly broken it is very difficult to see what is going on at all.  I cannot find separate fonts for the various functions, but they do appear in different sizes. On 9/22/2024 11:48 AM, Raymond West via Discuss wrote: > > depending on what version of openscad,   Edit - preferences then > either editor and/or advanced. > > On 22/09/2024 14:55, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote: >> >> I found the <ctrl>-- (control minus) for the editor font, but the >> menu font, console font, and error log font are still wrong.  Are >> these things stored in a text file that I can edit? >> >> Jon >> >> >> On 9/22/2024 9:41 AM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote: >>> >>> I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks >>> like this: >>> >>> It is basically useless.  Where is the font size hidden, please?  >>> Exploring is very difficult at the moment. >>> >>> Would it make sense to not allow font sizes over some limit? >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>> Virus-free.www.avg.com >>> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>> To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
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Sun, Sep 22, 2024 4:36 PM

Jon Bondy

Sun, Sep 22, 2024 9:41 AM

I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks like this:

Try

Ctrl + Fn + mouse wheel.

> Jon Bondy > > Sun, Sep 22, 2024 9:41 AM > > > I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD looks like this: Try Ctrl + Fn + mouse wheel.
JB
Jordan Brown
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 4:54 PM

There's only a couple of configurable font items, and I think they are
all in Preferences.

You don't say what system you're on.  On Windows the preferences are in
the Registry, in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\OpenSCAD.  I don't know
about other platforms.

Overlapping like that means that something didn't properly handle the
font metrics.  It's unquestionably a bug.  (Whether it's a bug in
OpenSCAD or elsewhere, don't know.)

And no, pretty much there should not be any limits on font size, and
especially not this small.  Vision-impaired people need fonts that are
by normal-vision standards huge.  (Some years back when my wife was
having eye problems, she was getting about one sentence per page on her
Kindle.)  At 72 point - about ¾" capitals - I get about 60 characters
across and 17 lines tall, which seems usable.  (That's on a 43" 4K TV
used as a monitor, ~$200 from Costco.)

There are two font-size controls - the one in the preferences, and the
increase/decrease with the menu and Ctrl-plus and Ctrl-minus.  The
preferences one persists across application restert; the menu/Ctrl one
does not.

You might also look at system-wide font-size settings.  OpenSCAD is
known to interact poorly with those.

There's only a couple of configurable font items, and I think they are all in Preferences. You don't say what system you're on.  On Windows the preferences are in the Registry, in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\OpenSCAD.  I don't know about other platforms. Overlapping like that means that something didn't properly handle the font metrics.  It's unquestionably a bug.  (Whether it's a bug in OpenSCAD or elsewhere, don't know.) And no, pretty much there should not be any limits on font size, and especially not this small.  Vision-impaired people need fonts that are by normal-vision standards huge.  (Some years back when my wife was having eye problems, she was getting about one sentence per page on her Kindle.)  At 72 point - about ¾" capitals - I get about 60 characters across and 17 lines tall, which seems usable.  (That's on a 43" 4K TV used as a monitor, ~$200 from Costco.) There are two font-size controls - the one in the preferences, and the increase/decrease with the menu and Ctrl-plus and Ctrl-minus.  The preferences one persists across application restert; the menu/Ctrl one does not. You might also look at system-wide font-size settings.  OpenSCAD is known to interact poorly with those.
JB
Jon Bondy
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 5:12 PM

VERY helpful, but the menu (upper left corner), viewport (lower left
corner), version (lower right corner) remain too large.  The titles
"Editor", "Console", and "Error-Log" may also be larger.

On 9/22/2024 12:36 PM, Caddiy via Discuss wrote:

 Jon Bondy

 Sun, Sep 22, 2024 9:41 AM

     I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD
     looks like this:

Try

Ctrl + Fn + mouse wheel.


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VERY helpful, but the menu (upper left corner), viewport (lower left corner), version (lower right corner) remain too large.  The titles "Editor", "Console", and "Error-Log" may also be larger. On 9/22/2024 12:36 PM, Caddiy via Discuss wrote: > > Jon Bondy > > Sun, Sep 22, 2024 9:41 AM > > I must have hit some keys accidentally, and now my OpenSCAD > looks like this: > > Try > > Ctrl + Fn + mouse wheel. > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
JJ
jon jonbondy.com
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 5:18 PM

Thank you.  Both the Editor and Preferences show reasonable font sizes (8 and 12) but the program remains useless.  A re-start fixed things, but this probably needs to be a bug.

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On 9/22/2024 12:54 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:
There's only a couple of configurable font items, and I think they are all in Preferences.

You don't say what system you're on.  On Windows the preferences are in the Registry, in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\OpenSCAD.  I don't know about other platforms.

Overlapping like that means that something didn't properly handle the font metrics.  It's unquestionably a bug.  (Whether it's a bug in OpenSCAD or elsewhere, don't know.)

And no, pretty much there should not be any limits on font size, and especially not this small.  Vision-impaired people need fonts that are by normal-vision standards huge.  (Some years back when my wife was having eye problems, she was getting about one sentence per page on her Kindle.)  At 72 point - about ¾" capitals - I get about 60 characters across and 17 lines tall, which seems usable.  (That's on a 43" 4K TV used as a monitor, ~$200 from Costco.)

There are two font-size controls - the one in the preferences, and the increase/decrease with the menu and Ctrl-plus and Ctrl-minus.  The preferences one persists across application restert; the menu/Ctrl one does not.

You might also look at system-wide font-size settings.  OpenSCAD is known to interact poorly with those.

Thank you. Both the Editor and Preferences show reasonable font sizes (8 and 12) but the program remains useless. A re-start fixed things, but this probably needs to be a bug. [cid:part1.fTuukEdw.NItFME78@jonbondy.com] [cid:part2.FPU3Vw5J.Qj8EZ5Yn@jonbondy.com] [cid:part3.j0TvCshX.JWEzCHfU@jonbondy.com] On 9/22/2024 12:54 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: There's only a couple of configurable font items, and I think they are all in Preferences. You don't say what system you're on. On Windows the preferences are in the Registry, in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\OpenSCAD. I don't know about other platforms. Overlapping like that means that something didn't properly handle the font metrics. It's unquestionably a bug. (Whether it's a bug in OpenSCAD or elsewhere, don't know.) And no, pretty much there should not be any limits on font size, and especially not this small. Vision-impaired people need fonts that are by normal-vision standards huge. (Some years back when my wife was having eye problems, she was getting about one sentence per page on her Kindle.) At 72 point - about ¾" capitals - I get about 60 characters across and 17 lines tall, which seems usable. (That's on a 43" 4K TV used as a monitor, ~$200 from Costco.) There are two font-size controls - the one in the preferences, and the increase/decrease with the menu and Ctrl-plus and Ctrl-minus. The preferences one persists across application restert; the menu/Ctrl one does not. You might also look at system-wide font-size settings. OpenSCAD is known to interact poorly with those.
JB
Jordan Brown
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 5:22 PM

On 9/22/2024 10:18 AM, jon jonbondy.com wrote:

Thank you.  Both the Editor and Preferences show reasonable font sizes
(8 and 12) but the program remains useless.  A re-start fixed things,
but this probably needs to be a bug.

What system are you on?

My guess is that this ties to system-wide font-size preferences. 
OpenSCAD is spotty in handling those - some things change immediately,
others change only on restart, and I think some don't change at all. 
And quite possibly the metrics used for layout don't align with the size
of the glyphs.

On 9/22/2024 10:18 AM, jon jonbondy.com wrote: > > Thank you.  Both the Editor and Preferences show reasonable font sizes > (8 and 12) but the program remains useless.  A re-start fixed things, > but this probably needs to be a bug. > What system are you on? My guess is that this ties to system-wide font-size preferences.  OpenSCAD is spotty in handling those - some things change immediately, others change only on restart, and I think some don't change at all.  And quite possibly the metrics used for layout don't align with the size of the glyphs.
JJ
jon jonbondy.com
Sun, Sep 22, 2024 5:35 PM

Everything was working perfectly for months and months.  I guess I did a
Ctrl-mouse-wheel without knowing it, or a Ctrl-Plus.  Then all hell
broke loose.  Nothing wrong with my fonts that I know of.

Windows 2024.01.14.  Happy to upgrade if you recommend.

On 9/22/2024 1:22 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:

On 9/22/2024 10:18 AM, jon jonbondy.com wrote:

Thank you.  Both the Editor and Preferences show reasonable font
sizes (8 and 12) but the program remains useless.  A re-start fixed
things, but this probably needs to be a bug.

What system are you on?

My guess is that this ties to system-wide font-size preferences.
OpenSCAD is spotty in handling those - some things change immediately,
others change only on restart, and I think some don't change at all. 
And quite possibly the metrics used for layout don't align with the
size of the glyphs.

Everything was working perfectly for months and months.  I guess I did a Ctrl-mouse-wheel without knowing it, or a Ctrl-Plus.  Then all hell broke loose.  Nothing wrong with my fonts that I know of. Windows 2024.01.14.  Happy to upgrade if you recommend. On 9/22/2024 1:22 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 9/22/2024 10:18 AM, jon jonbondy.com wrote: >> >> Thank you.  Both the Editor and Preferences show reasonable font >> sizes (8 and 12) but the program remains useless.  A re-start fixed >> things, but this probably needs to be a bug. >> > > What system are you on? > > My guess is that this ties to system-wide font-size preferences. > OpenSCAD is spotty in handling those - some things change immediately, > others change only on restart, and I think some don't change at all.  > And quite possibly the metrics used for layout don't align with the > size of the glyphs. >