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jon
Mon, Jan 19, 2015 10:50 PM

I guess

opengl32.dll

From

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building_on_Microsoft_Windows#OpenGL

I read

  OpenGL

OpenSCAD needs at least OpenGL version 2.0 to be able to correctly
render the preview using OpenCSG. It's possible to run with older
versions (e.g. the default provided by Windows which is 1.4) but the
display might differ from the expected output.

For systems that can't provide the needed OpenGL version (e.g. when
running on a VM) it's still possible to get the a more recent OpenGL
driver using the Mesa software renderer.

$ pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-mesa

After installing the mesa driver (default location is
C:\msys64\mingw64\bin, the driver itself is opengl32.dll), it can be
even activated by copying it into the same folder as the OpenSCAD.exe.

It's possible to enable it for the whole system by copying it to the
Windows system32 folder, replacing the old system driver. (Warning: Only
do that if you have a backup and enough knowledge how to restore files
in a broken Windows installation!)

On 1/19/2015 5:25 PM, tdeagan wrote:

urp.  reading farther back in the thread, the problem described sounds a lot
like what I got when I had to replace my hard drive and rebuild my laptop.
Until I got the absolutely right Intel video drivers, I could not get the
OpenGL to run.  This is where I got them, but I don't know what graphics
setup you have.
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=20046

Gulp.  I don't have any DLLs in my 2014.03 OpenSCAD folder.  Which dll is it
again you're looking for, I can see if it's in my path.

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I guess opengl32.dll From https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Building_on_Microsoft_Windows#OpenGL I read OpenGL OpenSCAD needs at least OpenGL version 2.0 to be able to correctly render the preview using OpenCSG. It's possible to run with older versions (e.g. the default provided by Windows which is 1.4) but the display might differ from the expected output. For systems that can't provide the needed OpenGL version (e.g. when running on a VM) it's still possible to get the a more recent OpenGL driver using the Mesa software renderer. $ pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-mesa After installing the mesa driver (default location is C:\msys64\mingw64\bin, the driver itself is opengl32.dll), it can be even activated by copying it into the same folder as the OpenSCAD.exe. It's possible to enable it for the whole system by copying it to the Windows system32 folder, replacing the old system driver. (Warning: Only do that if you have a backup and enough knowledge how to restore files in a broken Windows installation!) On 1/19/2015 5:25 PM, tdeagan wrote: > urp. reading farther back in the thread, the problem described sounds a lot > like what I got when I had to replace my hard drive and rebuild my laptop. > Until I got the absolutely right Intel video drivers, I could not get the > OpenGL to run. This is where I got them, but I don't know what graphics > setup you have. > https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=20046 > > Gulp. I don't have any DLLs in my 2014.03 OpenSCAD folder. Which dll is it > again you're looking for, I can see if it's in my path. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Conway-polyhedron-operators-tp11037p11104.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8959 - Release Date: 01/19/15 > >
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tdeagan
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 1:40 AM

I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system.

1066 KB  C:\Windows\System32

760 KB    C:\Windows\SysWOW64

1066 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d

760 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07

The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files have
the same.

The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the
date that I built the new hard drive for this box.  So I'm not sure exactly
how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel video
drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until I
fixed those.

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I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system. 1066 KB C:\Windows\System32 760 KB C:\Windows\SysWOW64 1066 KB C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d 760 KB C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07 The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files have the same. The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the date that I built the new hard drive for this box. So I'm not sure exactly how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel video drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until I fixed those. -- View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Conway-polyhedron-operators-tp11037p11106.html Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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jon
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 1:45 AM

I will have to build a new computer from scratch to recover from this.

Thanks for trying

Jon

On 1/19/2015 8:40 PM, tdeagan wrote:

I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system.

1066 KB  C:\Windows\System32

760 KB    C:\Windows\SysWOW64

1066 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d

760 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07

The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files have
the same.

The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the
date that I built the new hard drive for this box.  So I'm not sure exactly
how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel video
drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until I
fixed those.

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I will have to build a new computer from scratch to recover from this. Thanks for trying Jon On 1/19/2015 8:40 PM, tdeagan wrote: > I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system. > > 1066 KB C:\Windows\System32 > > 760 KB C:\Windows\SysWOW64 > > 1066 KB > C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d > > 760 KB > C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07 > > The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files have > the same. > > The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the > date that I built the new hard drive for this box. So I'm not sure exactly > how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel video > drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until I > fixed those. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Conway-polyhedron-operators-tp11037p11106.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8961 - Release Date: 01/19/15 > >
MK
Marius Kintel
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 1:56 AM

On Jan 19, 2015, at 20:45 PM, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

I will have to build a new computer from scratch to recover from this.

: /

If you try anything, I’d recommend installing a version of Window for which AMD has working drivers.
..or get a new/different GPU.

-Marius

On Jan 19, 2015, at 20:45 PM, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > I will have to build a new computer from scratch to recover from this. > : / If you try anything, I’d recommend installing a version of Window for which AMD has working drivers. ..or get a new/different GPU. -Marius
J
jon
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 2:18 AM

The problem is that the AMD chip set on my motherboard is so old that
AMD stopped developing drivers for it.  Just about ANY new motherboard
will have reasonable drivers at least for the next year or so.

:)

On 1/19/2015 8:56 PM, Marius Kintel wrote:

On Jan 19, 2015, at 20:45 PM, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

I will have to build a new computer from scratch to recover from this.

: /

If you try anything, I’d recommend installing a version of Window for which AMD has working drivers.
..or get a new/different GPU.

-Marius


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The problem is that the AMD chip set on my motherboard is so old that AMD stopped developing drivers for it. Just about ANY new motherboard will have reasonable drivers at least for the next year or so. :) On 1/19/2015 8:56 PM, Marius Kintel wrote: > On Jan 19, 2015, at 20:45 PM, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > >> I will have to build a new computer from scratch to recover from this. >> > : / > > If you try anything, I’d recommend installing a version of Window for which AMD has working drivers. > ..or get a new/different GPU. > > -Marius > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8961 - Release Date: 01/19/15 > > >
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Marius Kintel
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 2:26 AM

On Jan 19, 2015, at 21:18 PM, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

The problem is that the AMD chip set on my motherboard is so old that AMD stopped developing drivers for it.  Just about ANY new motherboard will have reasonable drivers at least for the next year or so.

Makes sense. However, keep in mind that OpenGL 2.0 is > 10 years old, so I would hope there would exist drivers :)

-Marius

On Jan 19, 2015, at 21:18 PM, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > The problem is that the AMD chip set on my motherboard is so old that AMD stopped developing drivers for it. Just about ANY new motherboard will have reasonable drivers at least for the next year or so. > Makes sense. However, keep in mind that OpenGL 2.0 is > 10 years old, so I would hope there would exist drivers :) -Marius
J
jon
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 2:31 AM

The issue for me was that there were Win 8 drivers, but not Win 8.1 drivers.

On 1/19/2015 9:26 PM, Marius Kintel wrote:

On Jan 19, 2015, at 21:18 PM, jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

The problem is that the AMD chip set on my motherboard is so old that AMD stopped developing drivers for it.  Just about ANY new motherboard will have reasonable drivers at least for the next year or so.

Makes sense. However, keep in mind that OpenGL 2.0 is > 10 years old, so I would hope there would exist drivers :)

-Marius


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The issue for me was that there were Win 8 drivers, but not Win 8.1 drivers. On 1/19/2015 9:26 PM, Marius Kintel wrote: > On Jan 19, 2015, at 21:18 PM, jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > >> The problem is that the AMD chip set on my motherboard is so old that AMD stopped developing drivers for it. Just about ANY new motherboard will have reasonable drivers at least for the next year or so. >> > Makes sense. However, keep in mind that OpenGL 2.0 is > 10 years old, so I would hope there would exist drivers :) > > -Marius > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8961 - Release Date: 01/19/15 > >
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jon
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 2:34 AM

These all appear to be 32-bit files; I am running on 64 bit

Thanks!

On 1/19/2015 8:40 PM, tdeagan wrote:

I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system.

1066 KB  C:\Windows\System32

760 KB    C:\Windows\SysWOW64

1066 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d

760 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07

The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files have
the same.

The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the
date that I built the new hard drive for this box.  So I'm not sure exactly
how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel video
drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until I
fixed those.

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These all appear to be 32-bit files; I am running on 64 bit Thanks! On 1/19/2015 8:40 PM, tdeagan wrote: > I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system. > > 1066 KB C:\Windows\System32 > > 760 KB C:\Windows\SysWOW64 > > 1066 KB > C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d > > 760 KB > C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07 > > The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files have > the same. > > The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the > date that I built the new hard drive for this box. So I'm not sure exactly > how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel video > drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until I > fixed those. > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Conway-polyhedron-operators-tp11037p11106.html > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8961 - Release Date: 01/19/15 > >
TD
Tim Deagan
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 2:59 AM

I'm on a 64bit windows 8.1 system. Those are the only opengl*.dll files
that are on the box.  Slic3r has some opengl.dll files in its lib, but
that's it.

The 64bit system can handle 32bit stuff (that's what WOW64 is there for).
It's not impossible that some other file is being used in their place for
64 bit, but I'd have to have some idea what to look for.

-t

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015, 8:34 PM jon jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

These all appear to be 32-bit files; I am running on 64 bit

Thanks!

On 1/19/2015 8:40 PM, tdeagan wrote:

I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system.

1066 KB  C:\Windows\System32

760 KB    C:\Windows\SysWOW64

1066 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad3

64e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d

760 KB
C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364

e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07

The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files

have

the same.

The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the
date that I built the new hard drive for this box.  So I'm not sure

exactly

how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel

video

drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until

I

fixed those.

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I'm on a 64bit windows 8.1 system. Those are the only opengl*.dll files that are on the box. Slic3r has some opengl.dll files in its lib, but that's it. The 64bit system can handle 32bit stuff (that's what WOW64 is there for). It's not impossible that some other file is being used in their place for 64 bit, but I'd have to have some idea what to look for. -t On Mon, Jan 19, 2015, 8:34 PM jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > These all appear to be 32-bit files; I am running on 64 bit > > Thanks! > > On 1/19/2015 8:40 PM, tdeagan wrote: > > I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system. > > > > 1066 KB C:\Windows\System32 > > > > 760 KB C:\Windows\SysWOW64 > > > > 1066 KB > > C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad3 > 64e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d > > > > 760 KB > > C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364 > e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07 > > > > The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files > have > > the same. > > > > The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the > > date that I built the new hard drive for this box. So I'm not sure > exactly > > how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel > video > > drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until > I > > fixed those. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Conw > ay-polyhedron-operators-tp11037p11106.html > > Sent from the OpenSCAD mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OpenSCAD mailing list > > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org > > > > > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4260/8961 - Release Date: 01/19/15 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >
TP
Torsten Paul
Tue, Jan 20, 2015 10:15 AM

On a 64 bit Windows system the naming is especially confusing as the 32/64 refers to different things, not neccessarily the bit-size of the installed Windows.

C:\Windows\System32 <- that is the Win32 API which IS having 64-bit DLLs inside on 64-bit Windows, so the opengl32.dll in there is 64 bit

C:\Windows\SysWOW64 <- that is the compatibility layer for 32-bit applications to run on 64-bit Windows and only exists on 64-bit Windows systems. This would have the 32 bit opengl32.dll. This DLL would be needed when running a 32bit OpenSCAD build on 64-bit Windows

I'd suggest to just try:

  1. download http://sourceforge.net/projects/msys2/files/REPOS/MINGW/x86_64/mingw-w64-x86_64-mesa-10.2.4-1-any.pkg.tar.xz/download

  2. download and extract http://files.openscad.org/snapshots/OpenSCAD-2015.01.16-x86-64.zip

  3. extract opengl32.dll (that's the 64-bit one) from mingw-w64-x86_64-mesa-10.2.4-1-any.pkg.tar.xz and put into the unzipped OpenSCAD folder from 2) at the same level as the openscad.exe file (just the DLL file, no subfolders or anything)

  4. Cross Fingers, Click openscad.exe, Hope, Post output of "Help->Library Info"

ciao,

Torsten.

Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Januar 2015 um 03:59 Uhr
Von: "Tim Deagan" <tim@deagan.net>
An: "OpenSCAD general discussion" <discuss@lists.openscad.org>
Betreff: Re: [OpenSCAD] OpenGL

I'm on a 64bit windows 8.1 system. Those are the only opengl*.dll files that are on the box. Slic3r has some opengl.dll files in its lib, but that's it.

The 64bit system can handle 32bit stuff (that's what WOW64 is there for). It's not impossible that some other file is being used in their place for 64 bit, but I'd have to have some idea what to look for.

-t

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015, 8:34 PM jon <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > These all appear to be 32-bit files; I am running on 64 bit

Thanks!

On 1/19/2015 8:40 PM, tdeagan wrote:
> I appear to have four copies of opengl32.dll on my system.
>
> 1066 KB C:\Windows\System32
>
> 760 KB C:\Windows\SysWOW64
>
> 1066 KB
> C:\Windows\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_ffcff0f95d25203d
>
> 760 KB
> C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft-windows-opengl_31bf3856ad364e35_6.3.9600.17415_none_a3b15575a4c7af07
>
> The two 1066 KB files have the same time stamp and the two 760 KB files have
> the same.
>
> The two time stamp sets are within a minute of each other but precede the
> date that I built the new hard drive for this box. So I'm not sure exactly
> how they got here, but I suspect it was the installation of the intel video
> drivers since I recall having a problem getting OpenSCAD to render until I
> fixed those.
>
>
>
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://forum.openscad.org/Conway-polyhedron-operators-tp11037p11106.html
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>
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