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gene heskett
Wed, Oct 15, 2025 6:36 PM

On 10/15/25 12:42, Jon Bondy wrote:

Thanks, Gene.  I wonder why I am seeing things differently. Could it
have anything to do with location (I'm in the US) or platform (Windows
Chrome)?

I also am in the US, using linux/bookworm (a disaster all by itself)
FireFox-esr, or Brave. Sorry but Chrome and anything else from google is
persona non grata here.  Ditto windows. Gates and I had our final
confrontation over NT-3.51.  So Everything here is linux. But my
experience with armbian, currently based on ubuntu will have me trying
ubuntu by years end, but on this machine its 64 bit x86-64.

Jon

Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

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On 10/15/25 12:42, Jon Bondy wrote: > Thanks, Gene.  I wonder why I am seeing things differently. Could it > have anything to do with location (I'm in the US) or platform (Windows > Chrome)? I also am in the US, using linux/bookworm (a disaster all by itself) FireFox-esr, or Brave. Sorry but Chrome and anything else from google is persona non grata here.  Ditto windows. Gates and I had our final confrontation over NT-3.51.  So Everything here is linux. But my experience with armbian, currently based on ubuntu will have me trying ubuntu by years end, but on this machine its 64 bit x86-64. > > Jon Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Don't poison our oceans, interdict drugs at the src.
JB
Jon Bondy
Wed, Oct 15, 2025 10:38 PM

Cory:

Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing). 
What kind of "screwing up" are you observing.

I did as you suggested: this is the result:

On 10/15/2025 2:06 PM, Cory Cross via Discuss wrote:

Jon, you have something called "proofpoint" screwing up your emails.

Anyway, click "Artifacts":

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Cory: Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing).  What kind of "screwing up" are you observing. I did as you suggested: this is the result: On 10/15/2025 2:06 PM, Cory Cross via Discuss wrote: > Jon, you have something called "proofpoint" screwing up your emails. > > Anyway, click "Artifacts": > > > > - Cory > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
JB
Jordan Brown
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 1:53 AM

On 10/15/2025 3:38 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:

Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing). 
What kind of "screwing up" are you observing.

Cory's original message had this URL, shown here as a screen shot so
that paranoid mail processors won't trigger on it:

Your reply turned that into:

I did as you suggested: this is the result:
[ anti-malware alert ]

That's on your computer.  Although it's dimly possible that it's correct
that openscad.com is bad, more likely it's a false positive.  Windows
Defender doesn't have a problem with that file.  Exactly how you get
past that is between you and your AV program.

On 10/15/2025 3:38 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote: > > Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing).  > What kind of "screwing up" are you observing. > Cory's original message had this URL, shown here as a screen shot so that paranoid mail processors won't trigger on it: Your reply turned that into: > I did as you suggested: this is the result: > [ anti-malware alert ] > That's on your computer.  Although it's dimly possible that it's correct that openscad.com is bad, more likely it's a false positive.  Windows Defender doesn't have a problem with that file.  Exactly how you get past that is between you and your AV program.
JJ
jon jonbondy.com
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 1:57 AM

I guess I'm done with this exercise.  If there ever is a simple way to access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it.

BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning.

Thanks

Jon

On 10/15/2025 9:53 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:
On 10/15/2025 3:38 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:

Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing).  What kind of "screwing up" are you observing.

Cory's original message had this URL, shown here as a screen shot so that paranoid mail processors won't trigger on it:
[cid:part1.PbsxR2I2.xDapdxpA@jonbondy.com]

Your reply turned that into:

[cid:part2.idEyqP8c.yt08fAWb@jonbondy.com]

I did as you suggested: this is the result:
[ anti-malware alert ]

That's on your computer.  Although it's dimly possible that it's correct that openscad.com is bad, more likely it's a false positive.  Windows Defender doesn't have a problem with that file.  Exactly how you get past that is between you and your AV program.

I guess I'm done with this exercise. If there ever is a simple way to access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it. BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning. Thanks Jon On 10/15/2025 9:53 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: On 10/15/2025 3:38 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote: Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing). What kind of "screwing up" are you observing. Cory's original message had this URL, shown here as a screen shot so that paranoid mail processors won't trigger on it: [cid:part1.PbsxR2I2.xDapdxpA@jonbondy.com] Your reply turned that into: [cid:part2.idEyqP8c.yt08fAWb@jonbondy.com] I did as you suggested: this is the result: [ anti-malware alert ] That's on your computer. Although it's dimly possible that it's correct that openscad.com is bad, more likely it's a false positive. Windows Defender doesn't have a problem with that file. Exactly how you get past that is between you and your AV program.
MM
Michael Marx (spintel)
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 2:03 AM

Every time I download a new dev exe, I get virus alerts.
It is because it is a brand new exe, not seen in the wild before. So by definition high-risk.

I do believe it is not detecting a real threat.

If you check the same exe some days later, no complaint.


From: Jordan Brown via Discuss [mailto:discuss@lists.openscad.org]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 12:53 PM
To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list
Cc: Cory Cross; Jordan Brown
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Please give feedback about measurement tools

On 10/15/2025 3:38 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote:

Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing).  What kind of "screwing up" are you observing.

Cory's original message had this URL, shown here as a screen shot so that paranoid mail processors won't trigger on it:

Your reply turned that into:

I did as you suggested: this is the result:
[ anti-malware alert ]

That's on your computer.  Although it's dimly possible that it's correct that openscad.com is bad, more likely it's a false positive.  Windows Defender doesn't have a problem with that file.  Exactly how you get past that is between you and your AV program.

Every time I download a new dev exe, I get virus alerts. It is because it is a brand new exe, not seen in the wild before. So by definition high-risk. I do believe it is not detecting a real threat. If you check the same exe some days later, no complaint. _____ From: Jordan Brown via Discuss [mailto:discuss@lists.openscad.org] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 12:53 PM To: OpenSCAD general discussion Mailing-list Cc: Cory Cross; Jordan Brown Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Please give feedback about measurement tools On 10/15/2025 3:38 PM, Jon Bondy via Discuss wrote: Thanks for your mentioning "proofpoint" (about which I know nothing). What kind of "screwing up" are you observing. Cory's original message had this URL, shown here as a screen shot so that paranoid mail processors won't trigger on it: Your reply turned that into: I did as you suggested: this is the result: [ anti-malware alert ] That's on your computer. Although it's dimly possible that it's correct that openscad.com is bad, more likely it's a false positive. Windows Defender doesn't have a problem with that file. Exactly how you get past that is between you and your AV program.
JB
Jordan Brown
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 2:04 AM

On 10/15/2025 6:57 PM, jon jonbondy.com wrote:

I guess I'm done with this exercise.  If there ever is a simple way to
access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it.

BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning.

It kind of looks like you tried to grab the ZIP file.  You might try the
EXE installer.  (That's got the same executables in it, just buried deeper.)

But... installing the EXE is a bit more intrusive than just unpacking
the ZIP, because it... installs.

You might also try grabbing the naked openscad.exe.

On 10/15/2025 6:57 PM, jon jonbondy.com wrote: > > I guess I'm done with this exercise.  If there ever is a simple way to > access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it. > > BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning. > > It kind of looks like you tried to grab the ZIP file.  You might try the EXE installer.  (That's got the same executables in it, just buried deeper.) But... installing the EXE is a bit more intrusive than just unpacking the ZIP, because it... installs. You might also try grabbing the naked openscad.exe.
JB
Jordan Brown
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 2:11 AM

On 10/15/2025 7:03 PM, Michael Marx (spintel) via Discuss wrote:

Every time I download a new dev exe, I get virus alerts.
It is because it is a brand new exe, not seen in the wild before. So
by definition high-risk.

I do believe it is not detecting a real threat.

If you check the same exe some days later, no complaint.

Yes, but I don't think that's what's happening here.  This isn't a
general "I don't know this file so I'm scared of it".  Rather, it's
specifically saying that openscad.com has the Win64:Evo-gen Trojan.

On 10/15/2025 7:03 PM, Michael Marx (spintel) via Discuss wrote: > > Every time I download a new dev exe, I get virus alerts. > It is because it is a brand new exe, not seen in the wild before. So > by definition high-risk. > > I do believe it is not detecting a real threat. > > If you check the same exe some days later, no complaint. > Yes, but I don't think that's what's happening here.  This isn't a general "I don't know this file so I'm scared of it".  Rather, it's specifically saying that openscad.com has the Win64:Evo-gen Trojan.
GB
Glenn Butcher
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 2:12 AM

I've been using the dev .zip file for a while; I just unpack it in m
Downloads directory and make a shortcut to the .exe.  Also makes it
easier to test other versions, as they don't clutter the registry and
all that.  I also copy the openscad.exe to my msys2 /usr/local/bin so I
can run it from msys2 shells; all complains about is not finding
localizations.

On 10/15/2025 8:04 PM, Jordan Brown via Discuss wrote:

On 10/15/2025 6:57 PM, jon jonbondy.com wrote:

I guess I'm done with this exercise.  If there ever is a simple way
to access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it.

BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning.

It kind of looks like you tried to grab the ZIP file.  You might try
the EXE installer.  (That's got the same executables in it, just
buried deeper.)

But... installing the EXE is a bit more intrusive than just unpacking
the ZIP, because it... installs.

You might also try grabbing the naked openscad.exe.


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I've been using the dev .zip file for a while; I just unpack it in m Downloads directory and make a shortcut to the .exe.  Also makes it easier to test other versions, as they don't clutter the registry and all that.  I also copy the openscad.exe to my msys2 /usr/local/bin so I can run it from msys2 shells; all complains about is not finding localizations. On 10/15/2025 8:04 PM, Jordan Brown via Discuss wrote: > On 10/15/2025 6:57 PM, jon jonbondy.com wrote: >> >> I guess I'm done with this exercise.  If there ever is a simple way >> to access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it. >> >> BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning. >> >> > > It kind of looks like you tried to grab the ZIP file.  You might try > the EXE installer.  (That's got the same executables in it, just > buried deeper.) > > But... installing the EXE is a bit more intrusive than just unpacking > the ZIP, because it... installs. > > You might also try grabbing the naked openscad.exe. > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org
JJ
jon jonbondy.com
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 1:01 PM

I grabbed the naked OpenSCAD.exe file (without an AV complaint) and
stuffed it into my OpenSCAD folder, and that worked well.  I like the
new measurement UI.  Much less confusing (in the past, I never knew when
the feature was working or not, when to click the icon or not, etc) and
the new Copy feature is helpful.

Thanks!

On 10/15/2025 10:04 PM, Jordan Brown wrote:

On 10/15/2025 6:57 PM, jon jonbondy.com wrote:

I guess I'm done with this exercise.  If there ever is a simple way
to access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it.

BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning.

It kind of looks like you tried to grab the ZIP file.  You might try
the EXE installer.  (That's got the same executables in it, just
buried deeper.)

But... installing the EXE is a bit more intrusive than just unpacking
the ZIP, because it... installs.

You might also try grabbing the naked openscad.exe.

I grabbed the naked OpenSCAD.exe file (without an AV complaint) and stuffed it into my OpenSCAD folder, and that worked well.  I like the new measurement UI.  Much less confusing (in the past, I never knew when the feature was working or not, when to click the icon or not, etc) and the new Copy feature is helpful. Thanks! On 10/15/2025 10:04 PM, Jordan Brown wrote: > On 10/15/2025 6:57 PM, jon jonbondy.com wrote: >> >> I guess I'm done with this exercise.  If there ever is a simple way >> to access a file that does not trigger my AV, I would love to try it. >> >> BTW, I've never had any other OpenSCAD installers get an AV warning. >> >> > > It kind of looks like you tried to grab the ZIP file.  You might try > the EXE installer.  (That's got the same executables in it, just > buried deeper.) > > But... installing the EXE is a bit more intrusive than just unpacking > the ZIP, because it... installs. > > You might also try grabbing the naked openscad.exe. >
DP
Dan Perry
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 1:59 PM

Thanks, Cory.  That's a nice improvement.

For me, the biggest issue with the measuring tool (and still a problem) is
that as soon as I click my mouse anywhere, the measurement disappears and I
have to re-measure.  Your copy option is helpful, but echo'ing the data to
the Console is a better solution, IMO.  Then I can make consecutive
measurements and later refer to the Console without the need for several
copy-paste operations.

Dan

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 3:12 AM Cory Cross via Discuss <
discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote:

I have fixed up the user experience for the measurement tools. There are
tooltips for the various states, several measurements also give per-axis
deltas, and you can copy the outputs to the clipboard.

Builds available from

https://app.circleci.com/pipelines/github/openscad/openscad/7449/workflows/90e0ec3d-7855-436c-8a1d-49bad714da43

Discussion at https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5672

PR with all my existing changes at
https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/6278

Please reply here or at #5672 with feedback.

Thanks,
Cory


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Thanks, Cory. That's a nice improvement. For me, the biggest issue with the measuring tool (and still a problem) is that as soon as I click my mouse anywhere, the measurement disappears and I have to re-measure. Your copy option is helpful, but echo'ing the data to the Console is a better solution, IMO. Then I can make consecutive measurements and later refer to the Console without the need for several copy-paste operations. Dan On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 3:12 AM Cory Cross via Discuss < discuss@lists.openscad.org> wrote: > I have fixed up the user experience for the measurement tools. There are > tooltips for the various states, several measurements also give per-axis > deltas, and you can copy the outputs to the clipboard. > > Builds available from > > https://app.circleci.com/pipelines/github/openscad/openscad/7449/workflows/90e0ec3d-7855-436c-8a1d-49bad714da43 > > Discussion at https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5672 > > PR with all my existing changes at > https://github.com/openscad/openscad/pull/6278 > > Please reply here or at #5672 with feedback. > > Thanks, > Cory > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org >