Empathy List Archives

M

MichaelAtOz

Tue, Apr 24, 2018 3:42 AM

I've been to the wiki a bit lately.
I've come across many things like '[Note: Requires version 2015.03]' & 'For
2013.05+, the option to...' & 'Note: For Windows, in versions prior to
2014.02.22 there is a bug...'.

This page
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using_OpenSCAD_in_a_command_line_environment
goes back pre 2013.

I suggest it is time to start rebasing the Wiki to 2015.03. Removing all
older qualifications and presuming all 2015.03 features are extant and not
requiring specific mention.
Note I said 'start' it will have to happen over time of course.

Is there any reason not to? Objections?

Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...

Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

I've been to the wiki a bit lately. I've come across many things like '[Note: Requires version 2015.03]' & 'For 2013.05+, the option to...' & 'Note: For Windows, in versions prior to 2014.02.22 there is a bug...'. This page <https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Using_OpenSCAD_in_a_command_line_environment> goes back pre 2013. I suggest it is time to start rebasing the Wiki to 2015.03. Removing all older qualifications and presuming all 2015.03 features are extant and not requiring specific mention. Note I said 'start' it will have to happen over time of course. Is there any reason not to? Objections? ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

M

MichaelAtOz

Tue, Apr 24, 2018 3:46 AM

Anyone know if the Wiki can be archived for posterity and/or whether that
would be a waste of space?

Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...

Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

Anyone know if the Wiki can be archived for posterity and/or whether that would be a waste of space? ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

MF

Michael Frey

Tue, Apr 24, 2018 4:20 AM

On 24.04.2018 05:42, MichaelAtOz wrote:

I suggest it is time to start rebasing the Wiki to 2015.03. Removing all
older qualifications and presuming all 2015.03 features are extant and not
requiring specific mention.
Note I said 'start' it will have to happen over time of course.

This would clearly improve the readability.

On 24.04.2018 05:46, MichaelAtOz wrote:

Anyone know if the Wiki can be archived for posterity and/or whether that
would be a waste of space?

That was the first idea that sprung to my mind.

We have a "printable" version:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language
This is a good base for archival.

You can use {{subst: to substitute the include with its content.
Then such a "printable" Version could be archived as a separate page.
This page could then be blocked from editing as it is an archive.

You can also create a PDF from this page and archive that.

If we are lazy, we could simply look if a web archive has backed up the
"printable" version and/or the separate pages.

With Kind regards,
Michael Frey

On 24.04.2018 05:42, MichaelAtOz wrote: > I suggest it is time to start rebasing the Wiki to 2015.03. Removing all > older qualifications and presuming all 2015.03 features are extant and not > requiring specific mention. > Note I said 'start' it will have to happen over time of course. This would clearly improve the readability. On 24.04.2018 05:46, MichaelAtOz wrote: > Anyone know if the Wiki can be archived for posterity and/or whether that > would be a waste of space? That was the first idea that sprung to my mind. We have a "printable" version: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language This is a good base for archival. You can use {{subst: to substitute the include with its content. Then such a "printable" Version could be archived as a separate page. This page could then be blocked from editing as it is an archive. You can also create a PDF from this page and archive that. If we are lazy, we could simply look if a web archive has backed up the "printable" version and/or the separate pages. With Kind regards, Michael Frey

DM

doug moen

Tue, Apr 24, 2018 1:25 PM

The wiki preserves the history of edits.
For example, in "Using_OpenSCAD_in_a_command_line_environment",
there was a change in Nov 2011:
(removed old syntax transition (affected releases before 2010.02, now we're
at 2011.06))

So that documentation for the 2010 version of OpenSCAD is still accessible
to historians. A quick google search shows that there are tools for
migrating historical data out of a mediawiki and into a git repository,
which would then give you a more automated way to explore the OpenSCAD
Manual's historical versions. So I wouldn't worry about archiving the
current Manual before making changes.

Here are tools for downloading the full history of the OpenSCAD Manual,
without having shell access to wikibooks.org:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Grabbers

On 23 April 2018 at 23:42, MichaelAtOz oz.at.michael@gmail.com wrote:

I've been to the wiki a bit lately.
I've come across many things like '[Note: Requires version 2015.03]' & 'For
2013.05+, the option to...' & 'Note: For Windows, in versions prior to
2014.02.22 there is a bug...'.

This page
<https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/
Using_OpenSCAD_in_a_command_line_environment>
goes back pre 2013.

I suggest it is time to start rebasing the Wiki to 2015.03. Removing all
older qualifications and presuming all 2015.03 features are extant and not
requiring specific mention.
Note I said 'start' it will have to happen over time of course.

Is there any reason not to? Objections?

Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...

Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the
Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all
copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously
inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it!
http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

OpenSCAD mailing list
Discuss@lists.openscad.org
http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org

The wiki preserves the history of edits. For example, in "Using_OpenSCAD_in_a_command_line_environment", there was a change in Nov 2011: (removed old syntax transition (affected releases before 2010.02, now we're at 2011.06)) So that documentation for the 2010 version of OpenSCAD is still accessible to historians. A quick google search shows that there are tools for migrating historical data out of a mediawiki and into a git repository, which would then give you a more automated way to explore the OpenSCAD Manual's historical versions. So I wouldn't worry about archiving the current Manual before making changes. Here are tools for downloading the full history of the OpenSCAD Manual, without having shell access to wikibooks.org: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Grabbers On 23 April 2018 at 23:42, MichaelAtOz <oz.at.michael@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been to the wiki a bit lately. > I've come across many things like '[Note: Requires version 2015.03]' & 'For > 2013.05+, the option to...' & 'Note: For Windows, in versions prior to > 2014.02.22 there is a bug...'. > > This page > <https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/ > Using_OpenSCAD_in_a_command_line_environment> > goes back pre 2013. > > I suggest it is time to start rebasing the Wiki to 2015.03. Removing all > older qualifications and presuming all 2015.03 features are extant and not > requiring specific mention. > Note I said 'start' it will have to happen over time of course. > > Is there any reason not to? Objections? > > > > ----- > Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... > > Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the > Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all > copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously > inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. > > The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! > http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! > -- > Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > Discuss@lists.openscad.org > http://lists.openscad.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss_lists.openscad.org >

M

MichaelAtOz

Wed, Apr 25, 2018 12:22 AM

Here is an easier way:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180425001407/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language

Looks like there are sporadic captures back to 2009 too.

Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...

Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

Here is an easier way: https://web.archive.org/web/20180425001407/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/The_OpenSCAD_Language Looks like there are sporadic captures back to 2009 too. ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

M

MichaelAtOz

Wed, Apr 25, 2018 12:31 AM

& the other one
https://web.archive.org/web/20180425002648/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version#View_alignment

I'll add these references to the wiki somewhere.

Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid...

Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above.

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

& the other one https://web.archive.org/web/20180425002648/https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSCAD_User_Manual/Print_version#View_alignment I'll add these references to the wiki somewhere. ----- Admin - PM me if you need anything, or if I've done something stupid... Unless specifically shown otherwise above, my contribution is in the Public Domain; to the extent possible under law, I have waived all copyright and related or neighbouring rights to this work. Obviously inclusion of works of previous authors is not included in the above. The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out! -- Sent from: http://forum.openscad.org/

discuss@lists.openscad.org

Wiki Cleanup? Time to flush pre 2015.03 qualifications?

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it!
http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!

The TPP is no simple “trade agreement.” Fight it! http://www.ourfairdeal.org/ time is running out!