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PK
Peter Kriens
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 2:42 PM

Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue.

Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software.

It did take 3.5 days to print it out.

Peter

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com> wrote:

Now printing that is going to be fun.

You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's.

Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system.

Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable.  If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs.

Roger

On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote:

But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF.

It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components.

I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic.

<PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png>

And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail.

But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic.

Peter
Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue. Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software. It did take 3.5 days to print it out. Peter    > On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com <mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com>> wrote: >> Now printing that is going to be fun. >> >> You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's. >> >> Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system. >> >> Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable. If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs. >> >> Roger >> >> On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote: >>>> But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF. >>> >>> It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components. >>> >>> >>> I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic. >>> >>> <PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png> >>> >>> >>> And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail. >>> >>> But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>>
JB
Jon Bondy
Thu, Oct 16, 2025 3:01 PM

Beautiful!  How much filament, and what did you print it on?

Jon

On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote:

Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier.
Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support
for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be
easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes
leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some
superglue.

Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing
piece of software.

It did take 3.5 days to print it out.

Peter

image.png

image.png

image.png

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley
roger.whiteley@me.com wrote:

 Now printing that is going to be fun.

 You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a
 transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there
 are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I
 don't, just a roomful of Creality's.

 Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them
 together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the
 joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the
 injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about
 using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air
 vent system.

 Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the
 centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles /
 bridging a bit more manageable.  If you need to have water
 sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs.

 Roger

 On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote:
 But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a
 user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I
 don't have a VNF.
 It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment
 model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my
 model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with
 attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the
 skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes,
 prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are
 directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to
 make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that
 is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along
 in the buildup of bigger components.


 I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a
 vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with
 trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts'
 that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify
 where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and
 roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic.

 <PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png>


 And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-(
 And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to
 fail.

 But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is
 quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and
 wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a
 topic.

 Peter

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Beautiful!  How much filament, and what did you print it on? Jon On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote: > Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. > Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support > for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be > easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes > leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some > superglue. > > Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing > piece of software. > > It did take 3.5 days to print it out. > > Peter > > > > image.png > > image.png > > image.png > > > >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley >> <roger.whiteley@me.com> wrote: >> >> Now printing that is going to be fun. >> >> You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a >> transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there >> are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I >> don't, just a roomful of Creality's. >> >> Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them >> together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the >> joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the >> injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about >> using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air >> vent system. >> >> Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the >> centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / >> bridging a bit more manageable.  If you need to have water >> sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs. >> >> Roger >> >> On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote: >>>> But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a >>>> user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I >>>> don't have a VNF. >>> >>> It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment >>> model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my >>> model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with >>> attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the >>> skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, >>> prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are >>> directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to >>> make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that >>> is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along >>> in the buildup of bigger components. >>> >>> >>> I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a >>> vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with >>> trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' >>> that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify >>> where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and >>> roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic. >>> >>> <PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png> >>> >>> >>> And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( >>> And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to >>> fail. >>> >>> But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is >>> quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and >>> wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a >>> topic. >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > OpenSCAD mailing list > To unsubscribe send an email todiscuss-leave@lists.openscad.org -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com
PK
Peter Kriens
Fri, Oct 17, 2025 8:01 AM

I used HT Black from ColorFabb https://colorfabb.com/ht-black (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means).

I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ...

Peter

On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

Beautiful!  How much filament, and what did you print it on?

Jon

On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote:

Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue.

Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software.

It did take 3.5 days to print it out.

Peter

<image.png>

<image.png>

<image.png>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com> wrote:

Now printing that is going to be fun.

You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's.

Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system.

Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable.  If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs.

Roger

On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote:

But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF.

It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components.

I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic.

<PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png>

And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail.

But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic.

Peter

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I used HT Black from ColorFabb <https://colorfabb.com/ht-black> (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means). I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ... Peter > On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > > Beautiful! How much filament, and what did you print it on? > > Jon > > On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote: >> Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue. >> >> Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software. >> >> It did take 3.5 days to print it out. >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> <image.png> >> >> <image.png> >> >> <image.png> >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com <mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com>> wrote: >>>> Now printing that is going to be fun. >>>> >>>> You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's. >>>> >>>> Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system. >>>> >>>> Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable. If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs. >>>> >>>> Roger >>>> >>>> On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote: >>>>>> But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF. >>>>> >>>>> It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic. >>>>> >>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail. >>>>> >>>>> But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic. >>>>> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OpenSCAD mailing list >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org <mailto:discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org> > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free.www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
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jon jonbondy.com
Fri, Oct 17, 2025 11:04 AM

What printer?  I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly Magneto X.  Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards.

Just curious

Jon

On 10/17/2025 4:01 AM, Peter Kriens wrote:
I used HT Black from ColorFabbhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__colorfabb.com_ht-2Dblack&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=EmVd8nE_7A28lhSzXSHdUCsLKRf-jOYKgwr4fM1wHG0&e= (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means).

I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ...

Peter

On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy jon@jonbondy.commailto:jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

Beautiful!  How much filament, and what did you print it on?

Jon

On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote:
Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue.

Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software.

It did take 3.5 days to print it out.

Peter

<image.png>

<image.png>

<image.png>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.commailto:roger.whiteley@me.com> wrote:

Now printing that is going to be fun.

You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's.

Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system.

Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable.  If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs.

Roger

On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote:
But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF.

It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components.

I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic.

<PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png>

And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail.

But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic.

Peter


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What printer? I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly Magneto X. Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards. Just curious Jon On 10/17/2025 4:01 AM, Peter Kriens wrote: I used HT Black from ColorFabb<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__colorfabb.com_ht-2Dblack&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=EmVd8nE_7A28lhSzXSHdUCsLKRf-jOYKgwr4fM1wHG0&e=> (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means). I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ... Peter On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy <jon@jonbondy.com><mailto:jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: Beautiful! How much filament, and what did you print it on? Jon On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote: Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue. Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software. It did take 3.5 days to print it out. Peter <image.png> <image.png> <image.png> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com<mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com>> wrote: Now printing that is going to be fun. You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's. Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system. Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable. If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs. Roger On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote: But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF. It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components. I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic. <PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png> And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail. But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic. 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On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 11:04:05AM +0000, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote:

What printer?  I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly
Magneto X.  Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards.

Not everyone can upgrade to a "modern" printer once a
newer-beter-faster printer comes out.

I have two 1kg/day printers that are cheaper than the modern, faster
printers. Quality and speed is "sufficient" for my purposes.

A 3.5 day printjob every now and then is acceptable as long as your
printer isn't nearing 100% utilization.

Roger. 

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On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 11:04:05AM +0000, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote: > What printer? I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly > Magneto X. Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards. Not everyone can upgrade to a "modern" printer once a newer-beter-faster printer comes out. I have two 1kg/day printers that are cheaper than the modern, faster printers. Quality and speed is "sufficient" for my purposes. A 3.5 day printjob every now and then is acceptable as long as your printer isn't nearing 100% utilization. Roger. -- ** R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl ** https://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2049110 ** ** Verl. Spiegelmakerstraat 37 2645 LZ Delfgauw, The Netherlands. ** KVK: 27239233 ** f equals m times a. When your f is steady, and your m is going down your a** is going up. -- Chris Hadfield about flying up the space shuttle. ** 'a' for accelleration.
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Fri, Oct 17, 2025 1:51 PM

On 10/17/25 07:04, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote:

What printer?  I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly Magneto X.  Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards.

Just curious

Jon

So can I or even faster.  OTOH I probably have $6000 in 3 printers, two
of which I've rebuilt.  My present speed limit pf 15mm of filament a
second is how fast a 60 watt hotend heater can melt plastic.  I start by
triangulating frames, then replace heavy flying parts with carbon fiber
tubing, additional bed voltage and stepper/servo XY motors running on 72
volts.  And I make my own hot end assemblies. I don't have any clogged
nozzles. With the additional bed heat I can do polycarbonate like most
do PLA on 2 or them. No input shaping.  Those motors do EXACTLY,
PRECISELY what they are told to do. Hanpose makes those motors and smart
external drivers.

On 10/17/2025 4:01 AM, Peter Kriens wrote:
I used HT Black from ColorFabbhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__colorfabb.com_ht-2Dblack&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=EmVd8nE_7A28lhSzXSHdUCsLKRf-jOYKgwr4fM1wHG0&e= (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means).

That sound like polycarb, which I do at 285C & 120C.  Pricey stuff.

I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ...

Peter

On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy jon@jonbondy.commailto:jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

Beautiful!  How much filament, and what did you print it on?

Jon

On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote:
Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue.

Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software.

It did take 3.5 days to print it out.

Peter

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On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.commailto:roger.whiteley@me.com> wrote:

Now printing that is going to be fun.

You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's.

Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system.

Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable.  If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs.

Roger

On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote:
But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF.

It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components.

I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic.

<PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png>

And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail.

But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic.

Peter


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On 10/17/25 07:04, jon jonbondy.com via Discuss wrote: > What printer? I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly Magneto X. Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards. > > Just curious > > Jon So can I or even faster.  OTOH I probably have $6000 in 3 printers, two of which I've rebuilt.  My present speed limit pf 15mm of filament a second is how fast a 60 watt hotend heater can melt plastic.  I start by triangulating frames, then replace heavy flying parts with carbon fiber tubing, additional bed voltage and stepper/servo XY motors running on 72 volts.  And I make my own hot end assemblies. I don't have any clogged nozzles. With the additional bed heat I can do polycarbonate like most do PLA on 2 or them. No input shaping.  Those motors do EXACTLY, PRECISELY what they are told to do. Hanpose makes those motors and smart external drivers. > On 10/17/2025 4:01 AM, Peter Kriens wrote: > I used HT Black from ColorFabb<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__colorfabb.com_ht-2Dblack&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=EmVd8nE_7A28lhSzXSHdUCsLKRf-jOYKgwr4fM1wHG0&e=> (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means). That sound like polycarb, which I do at 285C & 120C.  Pricey stuff. > > I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ... > > Peter > > > > > > On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy <jon@jonbondy.com><mailto:jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > > > Beautiful! How much filament, and what did you print it on? > > Jon > > On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote: > Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue. > > Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software. > > It did take 3.5 days to print it out. > > Peter > > > > <image.png> > > <image.png> > > <image.png> > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com<mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com>> wrote: > > Now printing that is going to be fun. > > You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's. > > Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system. > > Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable. If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs. > > Roger > > On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote: > But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF. > > It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components. > > > I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic. > > <PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png> > > > And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail. > > But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. 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It is an couple of years old Ultimaker S3. Bu the material had a max speed 30 - 50 mm/s.

This was the longest print ever for me :-)

Peter

On 17 Oct 2025, at 13:04, jon jonbondy.com jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

What printer?  I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly Magneto X.  Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards.

Just curious

Jon

On 10/17/2025 4:01 AM, Peter Kriens wrote:

I used HT Black from ColorFabb https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__colorfabb.com_ht-2Dblack&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=EmVd8nE_7A28lhSzXSHdUCsLKRf-jOYKgwr4fM1wHG0&e= (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means).

I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ...

Peter

On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy jon@jonbondy.com mailto:jon@jonbondy.com wrote:

Beautiful!  How much filament, and what did you print it on?

Jon

On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote:

Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue.

Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software.

It did take 3.5 days to print it out.

Peter

<image.png>

<image.png>

<image.png>

On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com> wrote:

Now printing that is going to be fun.

You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's.

Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system.

Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable.  If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs.

Roger

On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote:

But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF.

It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components.

I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic.

<PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png>

And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail.

But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic.

Peter


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It is an couple of years old Ultimaker S3. Bu the material had a max speed 30 - 50 mm/s. This was the longest print ever for me :-) Peter > On 17 Oct 2025, at 13:04, jon jonbondy.com <jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: > > What printer? I can print 700 grams in about 15 hours on my Peopoly Magneto X. Your 3.5 days seems slow, at least by today's standards. > > Just curious > > Jon > > > > On 10/17/2025 4:01 AM, Peter Kriens wrote: >> I used HT Black from ColorFabb <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__colorfabb.com_ht-2Dblack&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=EmVd8nE_7A28lhSzXSHdUCsLKRf-jOYKgwr4fM1wHG0&e=> (printing temp 270 C/120 C plate). Including support it was about 700gram. I had ordered 2kg some time ago for a project where I needed food safety and it is said to be 'FDA Food Contact Compliant' (whatever that means). >> >> I find it not easy to print, it gets elephant feet very easy and for larger rectangular objects it warps too easy. So I had to abandon that project. So I had a about 1.5kg left ... >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 16 Oct 2025, at 17:01, Jon Bondy <jon@jonbondy.com> <mailto:jon@jonbondy.com> wrote: >>> >>> Beautiful! How much filament, and what did you print it on? >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> On 10/16/2025 10:42 AM, Peter Kriens via Discuss wrote: >>>> Thought I share the result of the vase design that I showed earlier. Birthday present for my 94 year old mother. Needed a LOT of support for the tubes. I decided to leave the bottom open so that it would be easier to remove after printing. Still turned out that the tubes leaked on the places where the support had been. Fixed this with some superglue. >>>> >>>> Made with BOSL2 absolute magic prism_connector ... that is an amazing piece of software. >>>> >>>> It did take 3.5 days to print it out. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <image.png> >>>> >>>> <image.png> >>>> >>>> <image.png> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 10:10 AM Roger Whiteley <roger.whiteley@me.com <mailto:roger.whiteley@me.com>> wrote: >>>>>> Now printing that is going to be fun. >>>>>> >>>>>> You could cheat and print it using a Resin printer using a transparent material would show off the structure. I'm sure there are 3d resin printing services around if you don't have one, I don't, just a roomful of Creality's. >>>>>> >>>>>> Print it in two halves as per your section and solvent weld them together, with some location tabs on one side to strengthen the joint and provide some location. [the same tricks used in the injection moulding process], nophead posted on his blog about using the solvent adhesive used by plumbers to assemble an air vent system. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or you could try putting a couple of thin webs underneath the centre of each tube, wide enough to get the vertical angles / bridging a bit more manageable. If you need to have water sloshing around inside, just put some holes in the webs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Roger >>>>>> >>>>>> On 30/09/2025 15:13, Peter Kriens wrote: >>>>>>>> But yeah, I was just using the geometry because the model has a user friendly angle across the top, for the display, and I don't have a VNF. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is because the 'user friendly angles' I love the attachment model of BOSL2. My friendly angles always become foes when my model grows :-( And you don't need a VNF to work with attachments. The fact that you can is a great compliment to the skills of Adrian & Revar but all common geometries like cubes, prisma's spheres, cylinders, tubes, torus, path sweeps, etc. are directly supported. Initially I was too afraid of the model to make my own components 'attachable' but it turns out that that is much easier than I thought and lets your component play along in the buildup of bigger components. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wouldn't even know where to start doing the following model (a vase as birthday present for my 94 year old mother ...) with trigonometry... It uses the 'prism_connector' and the 'parts' that Adrian recently added. I therefore only need to specify where I want the holes and their size and the tubes and roundings are automatically calculated. It really feels like magic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png><PastedGraphic-3.png> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And yes, getting rid of the Breakaway filament will be hell :-( And I've not been able to print with PVA yet, it always seems to fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But it is arguably true that the learning curve of BOSL2 is quite steep. The documentation is excellent but it is so big and wide that you often miss the essence when you first start with a topic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OpenSCAD mailing list >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org <mailto:discuss-leave@lists.openscad.org> >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Demailclient&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=i1CMpPky6pn7m-yeKEVNgOgNDB_nNjjGoLhJu06kkZA&e=> Virus-free.www.avg.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Demailclient&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=AsrE-c7ZR7B2Kyr3qgfvvppkCEBVsNmwEMndcrRSuOI&m=3ZddtPEOGbAcQaIN2qdw90Mt34iqS0ImkXwUWut-Hih1wwlvxQKDbP9UXNi95I8p&s=i1CMpPky6pn7m-yeKEVNgOgNDB_nNjjGoLhJu06kkZA&e=>